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November 21st, 2006, 07:20 AM
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#1 (permalink) | | BamaNation All-American
Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Gulf Shores, AL, USA
| Wednesday morning: Media's take on Shula (merged threads)
Interesting and very true, especially the part I put in bold type: | Quote: |  | | | But not at the risk of making a mistake. One thing Witt does not want to do is make a decision without a clear idea of the ramifications.
Among Witt's considerations are the $4 million it would take to buy out the remainder of Shula's contract, not to mention financial obligations to current assistant coaches.
Then there is the concern whether Alabama can hire a coach who would be considered a "home run," a name that would make it easier to tolerate the embarrassment of having to admit that Mike Shula was a mistake.
Witt knows if he can't get that coach, if the school might be forced to hire another Mike Shula, then it might make more sense to stick with the Mike Shula it has and work with him to make needed improvements in the program. Interestingly, several trustees shared the same anecdote about how former coach Dennis Franchione supposedly told Moore that he thought the best he could do in 2006 was 3-8, or maybe 4-7, suggesting that perhaps Shula exceeded expectations by going 6-6 this past season.
Maybe. But it would be hard to convince most Alabama fans of that today.
One thing about Alabama fans: They want to believe in whoever is in charge of the football program.
Which is why, more than anything, they just want to be assured that someone is, indeed, in charge. Ray Melick's column appears Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday. Write him at rmelick@bhamnews.com. | | | | | Some good points. Get the whole thing here: http://www.al.com/sports/birminghamn...680.xml&coll=2 | 
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November 21st, 2006, 07:38 AM
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#2 (permalink) | | BamaNation All-SEC
Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA
| Re: Ray Melick's take
Didn't think I'd ever hear myself saying this, but it seems like Melick is the voice of sanity in this issue right now.... http://www.al.com/sports/birminghamn...680.xml&coll=2
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November 21st, 2006, 07:53 AM
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#3 (permalink) | | Banned
Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL
| Re: Ray Melick's take
There is no way to spin this season's 6-6 record as "exceeding expectations." Given the weak non-conference schedule, Coach Shula should have been able to sleepwalk to a 7-5 record. 7-5 was the absolute minimum, and Coach Shula failed to reach that.
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November 21st, 2006, 07:56 AM
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| Quote: | TideRoller | | | | There is no way to spin this season's 6-6 record as "exceeding expectations." Given the weak non-conference schedule, Coach Shula should have been able to sleepwalk to a 7-5 record. 7-5 was the absolute minimum, and Coach Shula failed to reach that. | | | | | If we hit those field goals against Arky, we are 7-5.
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November 21st, 2006, 07:56 AM
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#5 (permalink) | | BamaNation First Team
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November 21st, 2006, 07:57 AM
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#6 (permalink) | | BamaNation First Team
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November 21st, 2006, 08:00 AM
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#7 (permalink) | | Banned
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| Re: Ray Melick's take
| Quote: | Ldlane | | | | If we hit those field goals against Arky, we are 7-5. | | | | | Or if we scored more points than the SEC's worst team...at home. Neither happened. But we were close, right?
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November 21st, 2006, 09:04 AM
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#8 (permalink) | | BamaNation Second Team | Re: Ray Melick's take
What Melick and all of the other "gurus" dont realize is that there is more going on here than winning and losing football games. Its about lack of discipline and subsequently, lack of control. I cant recall ever seeing so many personal fouls as i did this year. The players in Shula's face to make a decision? Yea, try doing that to Gene Stallings and see what happens. Obviously, lack of discipline and structure certainly contribute to why we are 0-19 when trailing into the 4th quarter. Ray Melick is NOT the voice of reason people.
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November 21st, 2006, 09:15 AM
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#9 (permalink) | | BamaNation First Team
Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Athens, AL My Mood:  | Re: Ray Melick's take
| Quote: | Ldlane | | | | If we hit those field goals against Arky, we are 7-5. | | | | | IF we hit those field goals...
IF we get a TD before half time of the MSU game...
IF we don't turn the ball over against UF...
IF we don't fumble twice against the barn...
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IF we were 7-5, are we happy with that!?!?
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November 21st, 2006, 09:19 AM
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#10 (permalink) | | BamaNation First Team
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If a frog had wings...
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November 21st, 2006, 09:19 AM
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#11 (permalink) | | BamaNation First Team
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| Re: Ray Melick's take
| Quote: | TideFan40 | | | | IF we hit those field goals...
IF we get a TD before half time of the MSU game...
IF we don't turn the ball over against UF...
IF we don't fumble twice against the barn...
and...
IF we were 7-5, are we happy with that!?!? | | | | | Ldlane is happy with it.  | |
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November 21st, 2006, 09:20 AM
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#12 (permalink) | | BamaNation All-SEC
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| Re: Ray Melick's take
| Quote: | montoya1978 | | | | What Melick and all of the other "gurus" dont realize is that there is more going on here than winning and losing football games. Its about lack of discipline and subsequently, lack of control. I cant recall ever seeing so many personal fouls as i did this year. The players in Shula's face to make a decision? Yea, try doing that to Gene Stallings and see what happens. Obviously, lack of discipline and structure certainly contribute to why we are 0-19 when trailing into the 4th quarter. Ray Melick is NOT the voice of reason people. | | | | | But what Mellick does reallize is that in light of a $4 Million buyout, whatever additional funds within the assistant coaches contracts for early dismissal, and the additional mula to bring in that top notch coach.... well, we could witness the financial meltdown of our beloved university. Add in that there is no guarrantee that whomever you hire will succeed far better than Shula has, and the BOT and MM and President Witt are facing quite the conundrum!!!!! I hate the fact that we are even in this situation. But take out the emotion and look at this logically. We may have to settle for one more year of Shula. The board can set conditions and ask Shula to resign to soften the financial blow (hopefully)!!!
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November 21st, 2006, 09:23 AM
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#13 (permalink) | | BamaNation Second Team | Re: Ray Melick's take
| Quote: | Bama Lee | | | | But what Mellick does reallize is that in light of a $4 Million buyout, whatever additional funds within the assistant coaches contracts for early dismissal, and the additional mula to bring in that top notch coach.... well, we could witness the financial meltdown of our beloved university. Add in that there is no guarrantee that whomever you hire will succeed far better than Shula has, and the BOT and MM and President Witt are facing quite the conundrum!!!!! I hate the fact that we are even in this situation. But take out the emotion and look at this logically. We may have to settle for one more year of Shula. The board can set conditions and ask Shula to resign to soften the financial blow (hopefully)!!! | | | | |
You bring out some good points but i am looking at it logically. If Shula is there one more year, we will have bigger problems that money in my opinion. Also, you said that there is no guarentee of getting someone better than Shula. If there is a coach available that has college head coaching experience, guess what, hes got more experience!
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