Link: Coaches poll next to split from BCS?? - Page 3

crimsonaudio · January 8th, 2009, 09:51 PM

	Quote:	GrayTide
	If Alabama is not playing in the BCS title game who cares who wins, or who votes for whom after the game. Not that I care, but IMO I still believe Texas got hosed.

Because if the system isn't fixed, it's only a matter of time until it's Bama that gets hosed.

Crimsongator · January 8th, 2009, 09:54 PM

	Quote:	Tider n LA
	16 teams. Conference champs and a few at larges. Get rid of the bowls. Let them decide it on the field. It may not be perfect but it is better than a popularity poll.

Why at larges? Either everybody join a conference and every conference have a playoff or do away with all the conferences and every team plays how and what it can. The big dogs will win and the whiners will do what they are doing now - whine about being left out and not being invited.

Don't ya'll get tired of beating this horse? Until the School Presidents make up their minds to have a playoff - there isn't going to be one?

Darn just in there and enjoy the dadburned football game - our team lost out and so did all the others that aren't playing tonight.

bama119 · January 8th, 2009, 09:57 PM

	Quote:	Tider n LA
	16 teams. Conference champs and a few at larges. Get rid of the bowls. Let them decide it on the field. It may not be perfect but it is better than a popularity poll.

You don't have to get rid of the bowls, make them part of the playoffs. And don't worry about conf. chanps and at large teams, take the top 16 teams and have a play off. Why try to complicate things!!! It really doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out.

January 8th, 2009, 10:24 PM

	Quote:	bama119
	You don't have to get rid of the bowls, make them part of the playoffs. And don't worry about conf. chanps and at large teams, take the top 16 teams and have a play off. Why try to complicate things!!! It really doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out.

How are you determining the top 16 teams? If you're using polls or computers you're using the same thing that you're complaining about now.

Tider n LA · January 8th, 2009, 10:54 PM

	Quote:	bama119
	You don't have to get rid of the bowls, make them part of the playoffs. And don't worry about conf. chanps and at large teams, take the top 16 teams and have a play off. Why try to complicate things!!! It really doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out.

Are you kidding me? The gmac, new orleans, motor city bowls. You have got to get rid of them. What is so complicated? You win your conference, you are in the field. If we have 16 conferences, we will have no at large's but we won't have 16 so the at large's will be the hard part. Sure somebody will feel they are left out and it is not a perfect system but it beats a bunch of bias sportswriters and coaches voting in a poll. That has really gotten old!

CraigD · January 8th, 2009, 11:22 PM

	Quote:	rolltidescott
	But how are you going to determine WHO is in a playoff. If there are ANY at-large teams, it will be just as subjective as the current setup.

Correct. But I'd rather have to subjectively decide who is left out by being the #9 team than by who is the #3 team.

Currently #8 is Penn St. #9 is Boise. I would not feel so terrible about Boise being the first team out of a playoff. Ask Texas, USC, Utah and, dare I say, Bama, how they feel about being left out.

8 teams would be better than 2.

I-Bleed-Crimson · January 9th, 2009, 11:56 AM

Why should conf. champs be automatic pick for playoffs? 6-6 SEC teams regularly beat conf. champs and runner ups in bowl games. Just sayin'.

crimsonaudio · January 9th, 2009, 11:59 AM

16 is too much.

8 teams max (I'd be happy with 4), conference championships mean nothing, take the top 8 (or 4) and line em up.

BamainBoston · January 9th, 2009, 12:16 PM

I love to see the playoff Nazis arguing about the details of their little panacea.

crimsonaudio · January 9th, 2009, 12:45 PM

	Quote:	BamainBoston
	I love to see the playoff Nazis arguing about the details of their little panacea.

I speak for all of us when I say thank you for your valuable and appreciated addition to the thread.

gigama · January 9th, 2009, 01:20 PM

As frustrating as the BCS is, it is still 1000 times better than the old system, which was a total fraud. How soon we forget.

NYBamaFan · January 9th, 2009, 02:21 PM

	Quote:	gigama
	As frustrating as the BCS is, it is still 1000 times better than the old system, which was a total fraud. How soon we forget.

A good first step, but still a popularity contest...

Tide1986 · January 9th, 2009, 07:56 PM

A popularity contest? Since the current process includes computer polls, I'd say it has a dose of objectivity and is not totally a popularity contest. In addition (regarding the human polls), you might find that the subjective opinions of a pool of people might, as a collective, approach an objective result.

Regarding the "total fraud" that has apparently existed over the years, I don't see anyone lobbying for Bama to renounce its 12 national championships because they weren't apparently won "on the [playoff] field" and are not legitimate as a result.