2009 depth chart (very early one) - Page 3

crmzn · July 6th, 2009, 03:03 PM

Dondarrion, I'm not so sure about Kirkpatrick taking the place of Arenas, but he could very well take KJ's spot.

SimCastilleFan3 · July 6th, 2009, 04:42 PM

	Quote:	crmzn
	Dondarrion, I'm not so sure about Kirkpatrick taking the place of Arenas, but he could very well take KJ's spot.

I think he meant it more as Kirkpatrick playing corner and Javy manning the star position. The star is its own position in our defense and Javy is the one who holds down that spot.

CaliforniaTide · July 6th, 2009, 05:10 PM

Here's my two cents...it's just a guess like everyone else's. We all know CNS doesn't have depth chart beyond administrative reasons.

QB
McElroy
Jackson
McCarron

RB
Ingram
Richardson
Upchurch

HB
Huber
Marrow
Matchett

WR
Jones
McCoy
Bowman
Maze (Slot)
Hanks (Slot)
Alexander

TE
Peek
Smelley (also at HB and WR)
Dial

STARTING OL
Fluker (LT)
Johnson (LG)
Vlachos (C)
Davis (RG)
Carpenter (RT)

STARTING DL*
Deadrick (RE)
Cody (DT)
Washington (LE)

*These guys will be starters, but look for a rotation here involving Dareus, Chapman, Murphy, among others*

STARTING LBs*
Fanney (Jack)
McClain (Mike)
Hightower (Will)
Harris (Sam)

*Same as DL, look for a rotation here involving Johnson, Upshaw, Patrick, Smith, Stinson*

CB
Jackson
Arenas
Scott
Kirkpatrick

S
Green
Barron
Woodall
Woodson

mkb193 · July 6th, 2009, 06:05 PM

Why does everyone pencil in Maze as the starting slot receiver when he's played outside nearly every snap at Alabama.

Dondarrion · July 6th, 2009, 11:12 PM

	Quote:	mkb193
	Why does everyone pencil in Maze as the starting slot receiver when he's played outside nearly every snap at Alabama.

maybe because Maze is built for the slot. if you want a prototye think wes welker with the pats a couple years ago.

mkb193 · July 6th, 2009, 11:27 PM

	Quote:	Dondarrion
	maybe because Maze is built for the slot. if you want a prototye think wes welker with the pats a couple years ago.

yeah, but you figure if he was going to play slot at Alabama the coaches would have tried him there by now. I guess just to me it seems like the slot isn't in his future.

Plus if what was stated in the thread about Norwood is correct, I would rather have him in there, not only fast and a home-run threat, but also tall and able to catch the balls thrown into the traffic.

kayakerjess · July 6th, 2009, 11:32 PM

	Quote:	Boclive
	Two questions here: Is Brandon Fanney a jack linebacker or a defensive end? Is Don'ta Hightower a jack linebacker or a will linebacker? Those answers would go a long way towards helping me understand some of the changes going on in the defensive front seven. And thanks.

Well, I'll try to answer, but I'm not sure I have everything straight. Fanney was one of our Jack LBs last year. From what I gather, he did well, but didn't take to the position very well, especially when it comes to getting a good push on the QB on obvious passing downs. He may continue to be a Jack, but he's not the prototypical one, and may be overtaken.

Don'ta is obviously an excellent talent, and can play multiple positions. He ended up at WILL last year mostly out of necessity, but appears to be picking up the Jack position nicely, and has a lot more to offer than Fanney. This year, we have some other players that can step in to the WILL position, which frees up Don'ta to play elsewhere. He did well through the Spring, and most have him penciled in at Jack for the Fall, with some incoming freshmen (Stinson?) possibly pushing. Don'ta is one of those rare players that can literally play any LB position.

With the incoming Freshman we have, plus the ones who played sparingly last year (now Sophomores), we have lots more talent to fill in the more "traditional" LB positions, which allows us to get Don'ta out there as the Jack.

Back on topic, has Vlachos really separated himself that much? Is he our new Center? I heard rumblings about McCollough pushing him for PT...

kayakerjess · July 6th, 2009, 11:36 PM

	Quote:	mkb193
	Why does everyone pencil in Maze as the starting slot receiver when he's played outside nearly every snap at Alabama.

He was very impressive in the A-Day game, but you are correct - I believe it was from the more traditional WR position. I think the bias toward the slot position is because of his size. Although, when we line up with an empty backfield, the WR "positions" don't really line up with WR, WR, slot...

68wRTR · July 7th, 2009, 07:46 AM

	Quote:	gamersfuel
	Looks good but i pray someone can overtake Marquis Johnson and Drew Davis.. IMO those are our only 2 spots to wory about

ill agree with you about Marquis Johnson, but Drew Davis did an excellent job for us last year and could easily win the most improved player award if we had one. RTR!

tripler1 · July 8th, 2009, 07:50 AM

i look for alonzo lawrence to earn a spot in the defensive backfield. very talanted and could play any position back there.

jps1983 · July 8th, 2009, 10:35 AM

	Quote:	tripler1
	i look for alonzo lawrence to earn a spot in the defensive backfield. very talanted and could play any position back there.

The talent is definitely there, but people have said he is very laid back when it comes to football and workouts. I expect BJ and Dre to move up the charts ahead of AL.

ROLLTIDEFANATIC · July 8th, 2009, 10:37 PM

I still wanna say that Anders is gonna have a good year this year at LB. He was our only consistent pass rushing threat last year, basically the pass rushing specialist. And im pretty sure he will be a senior this year to!

Hal Bennett · July 9th, 2009, 12:24 AM

Man, it is something when you've got so many good ballplayers, it is like throwing darts at a dartboard to try to figure out who is going to play where.

I can remember within the last ten years when we had about five offensive linemen who could play, and that was it. I told some Texas A&M people that we ran that line until it dropped, as if it were a '70 Chevy, because that's all we had.

I was just talking to my Foley friend about D. J. Fluker. This friend knows a lot about Fluker, because he was the down-linesman referree for Foley home games. We tried to compare Fluker to Andre. He noted that Fluker hasn't an ounce of fat on him, and he has a "six-pack." With all due respect to Andre, that wasn't Andre.

But there is one big similarity between Fluker and Andre. The Pancake Block in high school. My friend says that Fluker made about fifty pancake blocks last season. If he can learn much at all about the Bama blocking schemes, how in the world are you going to keep someone like that off your offensive line -- how can you redshirt him? That's what Andre did in HS -- every time you saw him on film, he was pancaking some poor soul.

I saw Fluker on TV last season, and his footwork looked awfully raw. Then I read some writer talking about Fluker at the San Antonio All-American game, about how poor Fluker's footwork was. Well, he had fifty pancake blocks, and didn't even know how to use his feet! And it is true -- last year was his first year playing on the offensive line. Until then, he was supposed to be the next noseguard at Alabama.

I'd like to see both Fluker and Carpenter on the OL.

I often wonder about Andre Smith. I wonder if Andre, or any of us who watched him play, really understand how good this guy was. Last season, Andre rarely did more than pop a guy real good and then stand up and watch the completion of the play. By comparison, Keith Samuels, if I remember correctly, would pop a guy at the line of scrimmage and then try to hit a linebacker or someone else downfield. Andre was so powerful that he won the Outland Trophy, basically by making one sudden, powerful block per play that opened the way for Glenn Coffee and the Alabama running attack -- and then standing around watching the rest of the play.