You Make The Call 10/20

bamajake · October 20th, 2009, 12:08 PM

OK, lets go back to the kicking game.

Red trails White 14-12 with 3 seconds remaining in the game. Red lines up to attempt a 40 yard field goal. As time runs out, the kick sails through the air and clearly goes over the crossbar and between the uprights. A sudden gust of wind blows the ball back across the crossbar where it falls to the ground in White's endzone. The ball never touched anything behind the goalpost and never got below the level of the crossbar prior to dropping into the endzone. What is the final score of the game?

TSUBAMAFAN · October 20th, 2009, 03:02 PM

15-14 Red wins, like the goal line, once it crosses the score is good.

NYBamaFan · October 20th, 2009, 03:27 PM

	Quote:	TSUBAMAFAN
	15-14 Red wins, like the goal line, once it crosses the score is good.

I'll go with this, because it is consistent with thier scoring philosophy. That said, it is the kicking game, so they might deduct points or something silly...

VolFan1 · October 20th, 2009, 04:00 PM

14-12

Rule: 8-4-1c...I think

bamajake · October 20th, 2009, 06:54 PM

15-14. You got the right rule VolFan, you just need to look a little closer. The kick need only pass between the uprights and above the crossbar of the goalpost. Now for extra credit. Same situation but the ball goes above the top of the uprights and half of the ball is directly over the top of the upright and half is inside of the upright. What is the final score?

VolFan1 · October 20th, 2009, 07:21 PM

	Quote:	bamajake
	15-14. You got the right rule VolFan, you just need to look a little closer. The kick need only pass between the uprights and above the crossbar of the goalpost. Now for extra credit. Same situation but the ball goes above the top of the uprights and half of the ball is directly over the top of the upright and half is inside of the upright. What is the final score?

14-12 in your second scenario. It has to be fully INSIDE the upright.

NYBamaFan · October 20th, 2009, 08:03 PM

	Quote:	VolFan1
	14-12 in your second scenario. It has to be fully INSIDE the upright.

I agree, just because you are good at this stuff...

VolFan1 · October 20th, 2009, 08:07 PM

	Quote:	NYBamaFan
	I agree, just because you are good at this stuff...

I missed the original question on this one

Got the rule right but the answer wrong

NYBamaFan · October 20th, 2009, 08:47 PM

	Quote:	VolFan1
	I missed the original question on this one Got the rule right but the answer wrong

I just don't see you going 0 for 2 in the same thread...

VolFan1 · October 20th, 2009, 10:45 PM

	Quote:	NYBamaFan
	I just don't see you going 0 for 2 in the same thread...

I hope not...we will see. Guess it would help if I was actually confirming my thoughts with the rule book. The one I answered incorrectly earlier in the thread a buddy from work gave me the rule number....bad thing is, he agreed that I had the right answer.

TSUBAMAFAN · October 21st, 2009, 08:43 AM

In the Pros this would be good, but primarily based on bamajake's answer "kick need only pass between the uprights ...." it would seem that the kick does not count.

bamajake · October 21st, 2009, 09:47 AM

Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner. Several actually. For a kick above the top of the uprights, if any part of the ball is over the upright, it is no good. That really doesn't make sense because if the ball hits the upright but goes through anyway it is good.

VolFan1 · October 21st, 2009, 12:16 PM

	Quote:	bamajake
	15-14. You got the right rule VolFan, you just need to look a little closer. The kick need only pass between the uprights and above the crossbar of the goalpost. Now for extra credit. Same situation but the ball goes above the top of the uprights and half of the ball is directly over the top of the upright and half is inside of the upright. What is the final score?

I have the book in front of me now and the rule clearly states:

The kicked ball shall pass between the vertical uprights or the inside of the uprights extended and above the crossbar of the opponents goal.

You are right, unless I am missing an exception, it says nothing about coming back through...so, even if it does come back through it has already met the criteria for a good kick.