Study: 95% of Participants Had Premarital Sex

[Displaced Bama Fan]

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061219/...premarital_sex

33,000 of 38,000 surveyed were women. What a bunch of sluts.

[ValuJet]

May as well get it while you can, because after you say "I do," you don't.

[It's On A Slab]

	Quote:	Displaced Bama Fan
	http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061219/...premarital_sex 33,000 of 38,000 surveyed were women. What a bunch of sluts.

However, Janice Crouse of Concerned Women for America, a conservative group which strongly supports abstinence-only education, said she was skeptical of the findings.

"Any time I see numbers that high, I'm a little suspicious," she said. "The numbers are too pat."

Truthiness: "the quality of stating concepts or facts one wishes or believes to be true, rather than concepts or facts known to be true".

[92tide]

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	However, Janice Crouse of Concerned Women for America, a conservative group which strongly supports abstinence-only education, said she was skeptical of the findings. "Any time I see numbers that high, I'm a little suspicious," she said. "The numbers are too pat."

they've got a lot of "novelty" stores here in ATL that sell "items" that may help her relax a bit

[bamabake]

"It would be more effective," Finer said, "to provide young people with the skills and information they need to be safe once they become sexually active — which nearly everyone eventually will."



The problem here, at least for people with a certain value system is this kind of stupid logic. I mean lets follow the logic to ist conclusion and apply this solution to other immoral things. Heck, lets supply heroin and pot to all of the teens that want it. After all many are going to do drugs anyway. Lets offer free
hand guns to all of the inner city youth that want them. The ones that want guns will get them anyway. Lets feed our kids at school the food with the highest fat content possible. All these kids will eventually eat at McDonalds anyway.
Why we as a society should stop telling kids the truth, throw our hands up, because they are going to do some kind of behaviour that is harmful " anyway" is not responsible and it is poor leadership. I suppose the real problem is that too many adults today have lived less that stellar lives in many of these regards and arent going to have those memories invalidated by taking a stand for what is right but I always thought we wanted it better for our kids that we had it. guess that notion is dead or dying.

[Bodhisattva]

	Quote:	bamabake
	"It would be more effective," Finer said, "to provide young people with the skills and information they need to be safe once they become sexually active — which nearly everyone eventually will." The problem here, at least for people with a certain value system is this kind of stupid logic. I mean lets follow the logic to ist conclusion and apply this solution to other immoral things. Heck, lets supply heroin and pot to all of the teens that want it. After all many are going to do drugs anyway. Lets offer free hand guns to all of the inner city youth that want them. The ones that want guns will get them anyway. Lets feed our kids at school the food with the highest fat content possible. All these kids will eventually eat at McDonalds anyway.

What is immoral about eating at McDonald's? Smoking pot? Owning a hand gun? Having consensual sex?

I don't see the morality connection here at all. Is there a Commandment out there (Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Big Mac) that I'm overlooking?

[bamabake]

	Quote:	Bodhisattva
	What is immoral about eating at McDonald's? Smoking pot? Owning a hand gun? Having consensual sex? I don't see the morality connection here at all. Is there a Commandment out there (Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's Big Mac) that I'm overlooking?

Well Immoral may be a stretch for a big mac but we do want what is best for our kids, or so I though. Pot is Illegal and unhealthy. Owning a hand gun legally is fine of course or are you being obtuse? I was reffering to people who
ostensibly are going to go commit a crime with it. Consentual sex is fine, betreen married couples, a male and female ( I cant believe I have to specify that but this is what we have apparently come to as a nation today).

[Bodhisattva]

	Quote:	bamabake
	Well Immoral may be a stretch for a big mac but we do want what is best for our kids, or so I though. Pot is Illegal and unhealthy. Owning a hand gun legally is fine of course or are you being obtuse? I was reffering to people who ostensibly are going to go commit a crime with it. Consentual sex is fine, betreen married couples, a male and female ( I cant believe I have to specify that but this is what we have apparently come to as a nation today).

I hear a lot of people make the logical leap between what offends them to what supposedly offends God. I find that attitude slightly arrogant.

I don't see a connection between morality and smoking pot. Does illegal and unhealthy equal immoral? At one time alchohol was illegal and deemed unhealthy. Now we know that moderate alcohol consumption is not only not unhealthy, but red wine is seen as part of a healthy diet. Does that mean that immorality is transitory, subject to the whims of politicians?

I don't see anything immoral about the responsible, sexual activities (which are neither illegal nor unhealthy) of consenting adults.

Just my obtuse opinion.

[Roll2vic]

Isn't it sad that our culture and value system has been so hijacked at this point that sex is moral as long as it is consensual. To follow this to it's logical conclusion, the only immoral sex would be rape. Sex outside of marriage is immoral, perod. However, the secular relativists have won on this one. Not many virgins going down the aisle these days. My "truth" may not be your "truth". What crap!

[Bodhisattva]

	Quote:	Roll2vic
	Isn't it sad that our culture and value system has been so hijacked at this point that sex is moral as long as it is consensual. To follow this to it's logical conclusion, the only immoral sex would be rape. Sex outside of marriage is immoral, perod. However, the secular relativists have won on this one. Not many virgins going down the aisle these days. My "truth" may not be your "truth". What crap!

Mentioning logic in a string of illogical and disconnected sentences is amusing, but not the basis for sound rhetoric.

I'll ask again. What is immoral about responsible, consensual sexual activity? (Answering "it's immoral because it's immoral" is not a valid response.)

[bamabake]

	Quote:	Bodhisattva
	I hear a lot of people make the logical leap between what offends them to what supposedly offends God. I find that attitude slightly arrogant. I don't see a connection between morality and smoking pot. Does illegal and unhealthy equal immoral? At one time alchohol was illegal and deemed unhealthy. Now we know that moderate alcohol consumption is not only not unhealthy, but red wine is seen as part of a healthy diet. Does that mean that immorality is transitory, subject to the whims of politicians? I don't see anything immoral about the responsible, sexual activities (which are neither illegal nor unhealthy) of consenting adults. Just my obtuse opinion.

I didnt accuse you of being obtuse I asked you were being. It is obvious to me now after your response that this issue isnt as obvious in the same way it is for me, so apparently you wer not being obtuse.
Pot is in fact illegal and unhealthy. The larger point I was making in my first post in this thread is that as moral adults we should tell kids ( cause this is where it starts) the truth and hold them accountable. We should set the example ourselves. Maybe the disconnect is how we each determine what is moral and what isnt. It isnt arrogance that forms my opinion on this subject but rather the moral standard I derive by opinions from. That happens for me to be the bible. The bible is clear on the issue. I could give you a range of reasons pre marital sex is unhealthy, safe or not but most of them would be spiritual in nature and psychological.

[cbi1972]

	Quote:	Bodhisattva
	I'll ask again. What is immoral about responsible, consensual sexual activity? (Answering "it's immoral because it's immoral" is not a valid response.)

An equally interesting question is "Is non-consensual, coerced sex within marriage moral?"

[jthomas666]

	Quote:	bamabake
	The problem here, at least for people with a certain value system is this kind of stupid logic. I mean lets follow the logic to ist conclusion and apply this solution to other immoral things. Heck, lets supply heroin and pot to all of the teens that want it. After all many are going to do drugs anyway. Lets offer free hand guns to all of the inner city youth that want them. The ones that want guns will get them anyway. Lets feed our kids at school the food with the highest fat content possible. All these kids will eventually eat at McDonalds anyway.

Actually, the problem is with your analogies. More accurately,

Let's make children aware of nutritional issues so that they will make better informed nutrotional choices.

Let's teach students the basics of gun safety in hopes of reducing the number of accidental injuries.

Let's teach students of the dangers of drugs so that they will "just say no."