Politics: The cards are stacked against Palin in the debate

[rizolltizide]

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	Quote:	Blue Devil Tide
	Only if no one buys their instruments until they know what it is they are buying. People did, now they're broke; let them fail and in their own self-interest, future investors will realize that buying credit default swaps without fully understanding the pricing methodologies is a foolish move.

People don't invest in credit default swaps. These aren't securities that are marketed by some retail, or institutional, sales force. That argument holds no water.

[CrimsonCT]

Things I never want to see/hear again:

• nook-you-lar
• the gosh tootin darnit folksy crap
• the winking
• the voice
• the 3rd grade shout-out
• "maverick"
• "I'm not gonna answer your questions..."
• expanding the power of the VP

Debate Factcheck.

[bayoutider]

A vote for Roseanne Barr would do as much good.

[GreatDanish]

I want to see a debate start by the moderator reading off a list of controversial (true or not) topics and headlines from the past three months, and just letting the candidates spout from there on out. No time limits, no rebuttals, no "lead questions". Just fire 'em up and let it go.
We'd get the same information, it would be more entertaining, and the possibility of a fist fight would increase dramatically.

Or better yet, have a "Moment of Truth" type setup. Each candidate is connected to a polygraph, and is given random scenarios, and asked, "What would you do?"
For example...
Question: "Senator Biden, a high ranking member of the cabinet is suspected to be a terrorist spy. A large-scale attack is carried out on three major cities in the US. Barack Obama is overseas, and cannot travel back to the US due to a no-fly order. What would you do?"
If the candidates do not answer the questions directly, they are given an immediate and painful electrical shock.

[rizolltizide]

	Quote:	It's On A Slab
	Either the debate format or the moderator failed the American people. Possibly both. How can a moderator sit there and listen to a candidate willfully disregard a pointed question? She was downright Tidefans-ian in being intentionally obtuse. At the outset, she stated that she was not going to answer the questions "the way the moderator wanted her to answer them". She was out-Tina-Fay'ing herself. Beyond parody, ridicule. At this point: Stop the damn debate, turn on the klieg spotlight, ask the question 10 times again if need be. At the end of the 10th time, if the candidate's still winking at her Dad in the front row, running her mouth about something that's not even tangential to the question, .......debate over, you lose. Nope. Modern debates seem to just be opportunities to regurgitate memorized facts and propaganda. Glorified stump speeches.

The problem with this line of thinking is it involves common logic and reason, neither of which are involved in politics.

[rizolltizide]

At least Biden told me that not only am I going to get a better interest rate on my mortgage, but I am going to have a principal reduction as well. Does anyone know which form I need to fill out?

[rizolltizide]

	Quote:	It's On A Slab
	If you want to be treated more respectfully on this forum, cease acting like a 5th grader. Respect is something you earn. You don't score any points by posting drivel.

My tally must be sky high by now.

[It's On A Slab]

	Quote:	rizolltizide
	My tally must be sky high by now.

[KrAzY3]

	Quote:	Bamaro
	Sorry but I really dont see how that can still be said about her after the last week. If McCain wanted a female conservative with executive experience, fine but not her. Her executive experience makes Obama look like a political veteran and she clearly has extremely limited national or world political knowledge. The latest Pew research poll now shows that 51% of those polled say she is unqualified. IMO, the only thing surprising about that number is that is so low.

Are you sure? A bunch of gotcha questions can make anyone look bad. Biden, Obama and McCain have all misspoke without any prompting, they weren't asked high school exam type questions from what I can recall. Palin does lack experience but let's be clear here. Her experience is arguably greater than that of Obama's who is running for president. She has a almost equal level of involvement in politics and she has more executive experience. I'm not sure what Obama has done that somehow improved his lacking credentials but he has not done much as a politician. Running for president does not count as qualifications towards being president... nor does going on Oprah or writing a book.

As far as why McCain chose Palin, I'm sure there were a few other options but the Republican party has gone really off the track. I looked at the presidential nominees for example and I saw a lot of guys that didn't represent the direction I'd like to see the Republican party go. I look at how the Republicans behaved in the congress and I see a lot of people that had no business being in office much less mirrored my views at all. Palin isn't perfect, let's be clear here. But I think you did end up in a situation in which going to Alaska was a viable alternative towards finding a federalist, finding someone that doesn't just call themselves economically conservative but someone that actualy cuts taxes and favors ideals over party affiliation. These are ideals that to me, align themselves with Libertarian ideals and became increasingly harder to find within the Republican party in recent memory (and never existed in the Democrat party which always favors bigger government).

Back on to the subject. I have to commend Ifill for being fairly even handed. I have seen biased debates in the past but Ifill didn't let her leanings have any kind of obvious impact on the debate. Also, I think both Biden and Palin did fairly well. Unless you'd really convinced yourself Biden was the devil or Palin was a bimbo you probably didn't change your mind much based on the debate...

[bayoutider]

	Quote:	It's On A Slab
	If you want to be treated more respectfully on this forum, cease acting like a 5th grader. Respect is something you earn. You don't score any points by posting drivel.

There went my respect out the window. ;

[jthomas666]

	Quote:	rizolltizide
	At least Biden told me that not only am I going to get a better interest rate on my mortgage, but I am going to have a principal reduction as well. Does anyone know which form I need to fill out?

Yeah, that's one thing I don't agree with. I can see adjusting the mortgage rate, but messing with the principle is just asking for trouble.

[Bamaro]

	Quote:	jthomas666
	Yeah, that's one thing I don't agree with. I can see adjusting the mortgage rate, but messing with the principle is just asking for trouble.

I'm not sure I agree with either. As long as no fraud was involved, no one held a gun at anyones head to make them take out the mortgage. We should not be rewarding greed.

[Blue Devil Tide]

	Quote:	rizolltizide
	People don't invest in credit default swaps. These aren't securities that are marketed by some retail, or institutional, sales force. That argument holds no water.

I am referring to equity positions in financial institutions that engaged in such transactions, banks that subsequently collapsed and whose shares plummetted.