Should we have an IQ test for right to vote?

[gmart74]

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Just because someone has a PhD from MIT on astrophysics does not mean he is well-educated in politics, civics or politicians beliefs.

Also people with higher degrees have spent an inordinate amount of their lives in school systems which tend to promote a more liberal or democrat leaning environment. We are herd creatures, democrats tend to surround themselves with democrats, repubs with repubs, Muslims with Muslims etc etc. Schools have been enclaves for democrats for some time now. It is amazing how many college democrats become republicans once they get out and are not brainwashed by a daily barrage of left leaning rhetoric.

So this whole notion of democrats on average having higher degrees therefore they are smarter is actually just wrong. On top of that it is irrelevant to the political IQ of the voters.

[Ldlane]

	Quote:	Giant Squid
	Here's a little story I use when discussing the whole public versus private school debate. Two football coaches were preparing for the season. Coach Public was given 65 kids at random. These kids were sent to Coach Public because it was the law that they had to play football somewhere. Some of them were good players, but some were very poor. Some had no interest in football at all. Some of them did not know what a football was. Some of them came from households where their parents did not care about football, had never encouraged their kids to exercise, and would not encourage their kids to become good football players in any way. Coach Private was given 65 kids who had specifically requested to be on his team. These kids had parents who were willing to pay thousands of dollars for top notch football instruction. Some were better players than others, but all of them had parents who cared enough about football to spend serious money on it. All of them at least knew what football was. Almost all of their parents had been successful athletes themselves, and had passed on good genetics and exercise habits to their kids. These parents placed a great deal of emphasis on football success. At the end of the year, everyone was amazed that Coach Private had a better record. Here is the critical question: Is Coach Private good enough coach that he could switch teams with Coach Public and still win championships?

Good one. Private schools can discriminate and it has nothing to do with "merit". It mainly has to do with money. Public schools have to teach any student that walks through the door. Private schools don't, they can turn them away.

[Ldlane]

	Quote:	gmart74
	Just because someone has a PhD from MIT on astrophysics does not mean he is well-educated in politics, civics or politicians beliefs. Also people with higher degrees have spent an inordinate amount of their lives in school systems which tend to promote a more liberal or democrat leaning environment. We are herd creatures, democrats tend to surround themselves with democrats, repubs with repubs, Muslims with Muslims etc etc. Schools have been enclaves for democrats for some time now. It is amazing how many college democrats become republicans once they get out and are not brainwashed by a daily barrage of left leaning rhetoric. So this whole notion of democrats on average having higher degrees therefore they are smarter is actually just wrong. On top of that it is irrelevant to the political IQ of the voters.

Got to tell you that a PHD doesn't mean much even in education. We've had them out here teaching and running our system and nothing has improved. In fact a PHD usually stays about a year in the classroom.

[CrimsonCT]

	Quote:	Tidewater
	One data point hardly dispels what you refer to as "a myth." If you notice, Obama lead McCain in almost every category. ... Eliminating the bottom quintile of the electorate (in terms of education, IQ, knowledge of civics, economics or the candidates positions) would disproportionately reduce Democrat voting, which is why you would hear Democrats crying like rats eating onions if this were to be seriously proposed.

My one data point trumps your empty talking points. And since this current election is the relevant object, backpedaling two decades is a fruitless maneuver. Surely you'd agree that both parties have changed considerably since then.

[Mamacalled]

	Quote:	CrimsonCT
	My one data point trumps your empty talking points. And since this current election is the relevant object, backpedaling two decades is a fruitless maneuver. Surely you'd agree that both parties have changed considerably since then.

Yep, todays democrat party is becoming socialist and todays republican party has become yesterdays democrats.

[gmart74]

	Quote:	Ldlane
	Got to tell you that a PHD doesn't mean much even in education.

I agree 100%. I've met way to many PHD's that got that degree through less than noble means. It isn't called "Piled Higher and Deeper" for nothing.

[It's On A Slab]

	Quote:	Tidewater
	Eliminating the bottom quintile of the electorate (in terms of education, IQ, knowledge of civics, economics or the candidates positions) would disproportionately reduce Democrat voting, which is why you would hear Democrats crying like rats eating onions if this were to be seriously proposed.

So, I am to assume that, using this theory, all the rabid right-wingers who lack education, IQ, knowledge of civics, economics or the candidates' positions are going to get a pass? Which is the way it used to work when the poll tax, literacy tests, grandfather clauses, and other measures were in effect.

[CrimsonCT]

	Quote:	It's On A Slab
	So, I am to assume that, using this theory, all the rabid right-wingers who lack education, IQ, knowledge of civics, economics or the candidates' positions are going to get a pass? Which is the way it used to work when the poll tax, literacy tests, grandfather clauses, and other measures were in effect.

Now, now... the Republicans here only brought up the education issue in an effort to pat themselves on the back, and they're just mad it backfired.

[gmart74]

I envision a simple test that would only weed out the true morons. Here is my sample test for this year's election:

1. Is Obama a Muslim?

2. Considering one candidate is all about "CHANGE," and the other is a "Maverick," please list what % of the time either candidate actually voted AGAINST his own party.
Obama___%
McCain___%

3. Do you think Auburn is worth visiting? (no, hell no, or a cursing tirade are the only acceptable answers)


I figure that would be good enough. The questions and answers could be distributed by a central committee made up of bipartisan morons who will no doubt argue about the % question......and maybe even the Muslim question.

[rizolltizide]

Someone with a high IQ, such as myself, should get more than one vote.

[gmart74]

hmmmmm good point rizoll. however this led me to think about another point. The US is a representative democracy therefore the inept and moronic among us have a right to be represented as well. So in effect, our constitution forces us to recognize the legitimacy of idiots in government due to their proper ability to correctly represent the idiots of the voting class. Crap..... time for a constitutional amendment.

[It's On A Slab]

I'd be perfectly happy if voters like this stayed home in droves.....

I present to you: Crazy Tracy

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IQ test? No. However, if you are of working age and do not work or pay taxes, your vote should only count 25%.

Unless over 65 or MEDICALLY disabled, if you don't pay taxes, you're not investing in this country...