News Article: Maine Voters Overturn Legalized Same-Sex Marriage

Tide1986 · November 4th, 2009, 09:15 AM

Maine Voters Overturn Legal Same-Sex Marriage

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	"Voters have a pretty good grasp about what they think marriage should be," said Jeff Flint, the Sacramento strategist for the Yes on 1 campaign. "It's not that they're discriminatory or bigoted. They just draw the line at what they think marriage should be."

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	The vote in Maine comes a year after California voters rejected same-sex marriage by a nearly identical margin. Voters in almost three dozen states have rejected such marriages through constitutional amendments, while same-sex marriages are legal in Massachusetts, Connecticut, Vermont and Iowa.

RammerJammer14 · November 4th, 2009, 12:32 PM

Big surprise. The evil hatemongers astroturfed that referendum big time.

On a related note, does anyone else think that Domestic Partnerships are the greatest farce of all time? I read where the University is debating whether or not to give domestic partnerships the same benefits and exemptions as marriages. The way I see it is, you either decide to get married, or you stay as girlfriend-boyfriend. There is no inbetween, wishy washy "partnership". If you aren't gonna make the commitment, you don't get the benefits. Period.

That said, domestic partnerships were obviously devised to run and end-around marriage so people with "alternate lifestyles" can feel legit and get some benefits. The problem is, since they won't call it what it is, lots of couples with unalternate lifestyles have decided to get dometic partnerships to escape the commitment (in case it doesn't work out, which imo is admitting it won't), but still get some benefits and feel good about their relationship. Now, if the whole idea is that gays getting married cheapens the institution of marriage, wtf have they created the idea of a semi-marriage? The domestic partnership is waaay more damaging imo, because they have now set the precedent that you can basically get married without an of the responsibility of marriage. My point is, if people in the states are serious about protecting marriage, they need to be consistent and go the full monty.

sorry for the rant, I got a little carried away there.

It's On A Slab · November 4th, 2009, 12:37 PM

	Quote:	RammerJammer14
	Big surprise. The evil hatemongers astroturfed that referendum big time. On a related note, does anyone else think that Domestic Partnerships are the greatest farce of all time? I read where the University is debating whether or not to give domestic partnerships the same benefits and exemptions as marriages. The way I see it is, you either decide to get married, or you stay as girlfriend-boyfriend. There is no inbetween, wishy washy "partnership". If you aren't gonna make the commitment, you don't get the benefits. Period. That said, domestic partnerships were obviously devised to run and end-around marriage so people with "alternate lifestyles" can feel legit and get some benefits. The problem is, since they won't call it what it is, lots of couples with unalternate lifestyles have decided to get dometic partnerships to escape the commitment (in case it doesn't work out, which imo is admitting it won't), but still get some benefits and feel good about their relationship. Now, if the whole idea is that gays getting married cheapens the institution of marriage, wtf have they created the idea of a semi-marriage? The domestic partnership is waaay more damaging imo, because they have now set the precedent that you can basically get married without an of the responsibility of marriage. My point is, if people in the states are serious about protecting marriage, they need to be consistent and go the full monty. sorry for the rant, I got a little carried away there.

Why not just leave people alone? The party of limited government and liberty seems to betray itself all the time.

RammerJammer14 · November 4th, 2009, 12:50 PM

	Quote:	It's On A Slab
	Why not just leave people alone? The party of limited government and liberty seems to betray itself all the time.

I'm not sure what you mean by "leave people alone". The government has issued marriage licenses since the begining of time. All I'm saying is decide. Domestic partnerships are basically gay marriages, but nobody will admit it. So you either man up and say "hey, men have a legal right to marry other men", or you confirm your position that they don't. There should only be one marriage license. You don't go handing out licenses for differing levels of marriage, cause they don't exist. Marriage is marriage, there is no Marriage type A and Marriage type B.

It's On A Slab · November 4th, 2009, 02:02 PM

	Quote:	RammerJammer14
	I'm not sure what you mean by "leave people alone". The government has issued marriage licenses since the begining of time. All I'm saying is decide. Domestic partnerships are basically gay marriages, but nobody will admit it. So you either man up and say "hey, men have a legal right to marry other men", or you confirm your position that they don't. There should only be one marriage license. You don't go handing out licenses for differing levels of marriage, cause they don't exist. Marriage is marriage, there is no Marriage type A and Marriage type B.

It's really simple. If you don't believe in same-sex marriage, don't marry somebody of the same sex. - Wanda Sykes

gmart74 · November 4th, 2009, 02:14 PM

i would prefer the elimination of all benefits to spouses. no tax breaks, no insurance no anything. I know gov is in the business of encouraging the sheeple into family units bc those types don't tend to rise up and revolt, but really the gov has no business encouraging or discouraging people's private relationships.

rizolltizide · November 4th, 2009, 02:22 PM

Bigots.

swoop10 · November 4th, 2009, 02:24 PM

	Quote:	It's On A Slab
	Why not just leave people alone? The party of limited government and liberty seems to betray itself all the time.

The party of limited government and liberty is also a party that believes in God. When wedding vows are read what book are they read from? It is a religous ceromony and gay marriage was voted down by the people of Maine. I don't think Maine is conservative state.

	Quote:	It's On A Slab
	It's really simple. If you don't believe in same-sex marriage, don't marry somebody of the same sex. - Wanda Sykes

It's pretty sad when Wanda Sykes is the person you go to when you need a voice of wisdom.

swoop10 · November 4th, 2009, 02:27 PM

	Quote:	rizolltizide
	Bigots.

Stop being so judgemental and put the pickled pigs foot down.

Bodhisattva · November 4th, 2009, 02:38 PM

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	The party of limited government and liberty is also a party that believes in God.

This is where the GOP loses me. You cannot be for limited government if you also want the government to tell adults what they can and cannot do.

IMO, marriage should be left as religious ceremonies. Each church can decide who they want to marry. Government-sanctioned marriage is largely social engineering in that the government has decided that being married is favorable to being single, and thus encourages marriage through things like tax breaks.

Who someone loves and wants to marry is none of my business.

DiamondDust · November 4th, 2009, 02:41 PM

	Quote:	Bodhisattva
	This is where the GOP loses me. You cannot be for limited government if you also want the government to tell adults what they can and cannot do. IMO, marriage should be left as religious ceremonies. Each church can decide who they want to marry. Government-sanctioned marriage is largely social engineering in that the government has decided that being married is favorable to being single, and thus encourages marriage through things like tax breaks. Who someone loves and wants to marry is none of my business.

My thoughts exactly.

It's On A Slab · November 4th, 2009, 02:56 PM

	Quote:	swoop10
	The party of limited government and liberty is also a party that believes in God. When wedding vows are read what book are they read from? It is a religous ceromony and gay marriage was voted down by the people of Maine. I don't think Maine is conservative state. It's pretty sad when Wanda Sykes is the person you go to when you need a voice of wisdom.

Show me where the Jesus said anything about same-sex marriage, and I'd cut you some slack.