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Old November 22nd, 2005, 11:24 AM   #1 (permalink)
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These are some of the scores from past recruits.

Demeco Ryans, Not Ranked 1 star
Juan Simpson, Not ranked 1 star
Ramzee Robinson, Not ranked 1 star
Kenneth Darby, Rank 45, 3 stars
Kyle Tatum, Rank 17, 4 stars
Tyrone Prothro, Rank 104, 2 stars? lol
Matt Caddell, Rank 24, 4 stars
Tim Castille, Not ranked 1 star
D.J. Hall, Rank 86, 2 stars


My point is that one of two things is true:

A.) Too much stock is put into "rankings" because they arent any type of exact science.

or

B.) We're about to have one MASSIVELY talented recruiting class.

*cough*

and one of our lineman is going to have a breakout year and block the bejesus out of everybody as a SR.
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Old November 22nd, 2005, 11:29 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Scouts ranking system sucks. Those 1 star guys, they probably never even saw highschool film of them. To prove the point Castille was a 4 star prospect according to rivals.

Also Kyle Tatum was a DL prospect at the time.

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yea I have noticed the rankings on our current players as well. I don't take much stock in the rankings. I look at high school numbers and combine results.
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Old November 22nd, 2005, 11:33 AM   #4 (permalink)
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These are some of the scores from past recruits.

Demeco Ryans, Not Ranked 1 star
Juan Simpson, Not ranked 1 star
Ramzee Robinson, Not ranked 1 star
Kenneth Darby, Rank 45, 3 stars
Kyle Tatum, Rank 17, 4 stars
Tyrone Prothro, Rank 104, 2 stars? lol
Matt Caddell, Rank 24, 4 stars
Tim Castille, Not ranked 1 star
D.J. Hall, Rank 86, 2 stars


My point is that one of two things is true:

A.) Too much stock is put into "rankings" because they arent any type of exact science.

or

B.) We're about to have one MASSIVELY talented recruiting class.

*cough*

and one of our lineman is going to have a breakout year and block the bejesus out of everybody as a SR.
It always makes me laugh when I see folks so worked up about what 4 or 5 star recruit we may or may not get. Hopefully your post will remind them that the rankings are not the 'all knowing' indication of how good players are or a true measure of what your recruitment was like. You can't measure heart or desire. Those two things are what it takes to play for the Tide.
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Old November 22nd, 2005, 12:44 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Rankings

The good thing about the rankings is when you recruit 25-30 of the 3-4-5 star players (UT, UF, LSU, UGA, etc...) you can afford to miss the boat on a couple.

However, if you miss out on a lot of them, as UT has obviously done, your in a bad way!!

We can explain our 4-9 season on massive destruction by the NCAA, Fat Fill has to explain 5-6 ar 4-7 with a boat load of blue-chippers on the field.

Either way, they are what they are!!
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Well I don't know how important stars are, but I'd rather get them and find out later. Those guys in orange and blue have been whipping our tails in recruiting for a few years now (yes, because of sanctions), and it has surely shown.

I just pray Shula is on the phone daily doing anything legal to get these recruits in crimson. Doesn't matter who is the runner-up we must seal the deal.
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Castille was highly ranked. Prothro was ranked low because no one thought he'd qualify.
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Castille was highly ranked. Prothro was ranked low because no one thought he'd qualify.
Castille was ranked VERY high. I remember ESPN as having Castille ranked the #2 FB in the country that year...or #1...either way...Le'Ron McClain was the other I think.
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One thing's for sure...

a full load of scholarships make the 4 star recruit attraction a lot easier...

That's all I know and that's all I need to know!
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These are some of the scores from past recruits.

Demeco Ryans, Not Ranked 1 star
Juan Simpson, Not ranked 1 star
Ramzee Robinson, Not ranked 1 star
Kenneth Darby, Rank 45, 3 stars
Kyle Tatum, Rank 17, 4 stars
Tyrone Prothro, Rank 104, 2 stars? lol
Matt Caddell, Rank 24, 4 stars
Tim Castille, Not ranked 1 star
D.J. Hall, Rank 86, 2 stars
Based on this sample, the fewer stars the better. Golf anyone ???
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Old November 22nd, 2005, 03:22 PM   #11 (permalink)
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as a famous coach with

the nic name of Bear once said...give me a handful of those average kids with heart and a will to win over them highly touted premadonnas and I will win evertime with them. The one thing you can not measure with a scale a tape measure and a stop watch is will and desire. If the kids we are recruiting have a desire to win a championship and a desire to be part of something they will will themselves to do so.
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Different time and game

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the nic name of Bear once said...give me a handful of those average kids with heart and a will to win over them highly touted premadonnas and I will win evertime with them. The one thing you can not measure with a scale a tape measure and a stop watch is will and desire. If the kids we are recruiting have a desire to win a championship and a desire to be part of something they will will themselves to do so.

I think the Bear meant give me 2 busloads instead of a handful. He used to sign well over a hundred just so they wouldn't go play somewhere else. LOL!!
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What I find to be incredibly funny are those that say that "ratings mean nothing, give me guys with heart over stars any day" yet look at how many are blaming our performance over the last half of the season on a lack of talent. You can't have it both ways folks. There are always going to be diamonds in the rough and there are always going to be busts but anyone that would rather start out with lower "ranked" talent and sort it out from there is plum crazy.
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