Question: Is there such a thing as getting too many commits too fast?

CrimsonSEC · July 29th, 2008, 11:55 PM

(Disclaimer)This has nothing to do with any of our commits to this point.

I'll admit I haven't followed recruiting that long, but is there a time with very limited scholarships available that the coaches say "Okay time to stop the offers to less than blue chippers"?

You'll have to excuse my ignorance here, I'm sure there is a process where a recruit is only given an offer if our staff is ready to hear him accept right away. But then you see teams like Clemson having offers on seemingly every prospect I look at on Scouts or Rivals, it makes me wonder if some teams don't offer more scholarships than they want to accept.

With all these recruits knowing it's time to jump on the Crimson freight train, it seems like a tough job culling the list. Then you throw in all these super secret undercover commits, I'm amazed anyone can understand what's going on.

bama579 · July 30th, 2008, 12:12 AM

	Quote:	CrimsonSEC
	(Disclaimer)This has nothing to do with any of our commits to this point. I'll admit I haven't followed recruiting that long, but is there a time with very limited scholarships available that the coaches say "Okay time to stop the offers to less than blue chippers"? You'll have to excuse my ignorance here, I'm sure there is a process where a recruit is only given an offer if our staff is ready to hear him accept right away. But then you see teams like Clemson having offers on seemingly every prospect I look at on Scouts or Rivals, it makes me wonder if some teams don't offer more scholarships than they want to accept. With all these recruits knowing it's time to jump on the Crimson freight train, it seems like a tough job culling the list. Then you throw in all these super secret undercover commits, I'm amazed anyone can understand what's going on.

Look at your thread title . . .No one is "signed" yet.

BEATtutorsee · July 30th, 2008, 12:13 AM

In our case the staff is only taking commitments from players that they want, so in that sense no we're not taking too many too quick. CNS is the man with the plan people, he's not out there recruiting all willy-nilly, the man absolutely knows what he's doing. As has been pointed out by Earle on more than one occasion, our staff likely already has this class sewn up (even if the public doesn't know it) and is likely already working on next year's class to some extent.

M2J · July 30th, 2008, 12:23 AM

Yes, not saying we are doing it... but in general yes there is such a thing.

LCN · July 30th, 2008, 12:33 AM

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	But then you see teams like Clemson having offers on seemingly every prospect I look at on Scouts or Rivals, it makes me wonder if some teams don't offer more scholarships than they want to accept.

Everybody does . The old days of 65-75 offers are a thing of the past . Every major school makes a minimum of 200+ offers . Most of them are conditional but , every one of them returns positive publicity

CrimsonSEC · July 30th, 2008, 12:34 AM

	Quote:	bama579
	Look at your thread title . . .No one is "signed" yet.

Doh! I actually corrected it once in the text and then missed it in the header.

CrimsonSEC · July 30th, 2008, 12:42 AM

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	As has been pointed out by Earle on more than one occasion, our staff likely already has this class sewn up (even if the public doesn't know it) and is likely already working on next year's class to some extent.

Now that's what I find a little hard to believe. I believe in CNS and all, but I find it hard to believe that anyone could have that much control over the fickle mind of an 18 year old.

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	Everybody does . The old days of 65-75 offers are a thing of the past . Every major school makes a minimum of 200+ offers . Most of them are conditional but , every one of them returns positive publicity

Now that's something I did not know.

runtheoption22 · July 30th, 2008, 12:47 AM

The staff has a board and will offer X number of players at each position. They will have a "pecking order" and will take commits only from those deemed high enough on the board.

And, yes, I firmly believe we have several privates, right now.

CrimsonSEC · July 30th, 2008, 01:58 AM

	Quote:	runtheoption22
	The staff has a board and will offer X number of players at each position. They will have a "pecking order" and will take commits only from those deemed high enough on the board.

The take commits is what I don't understand. Doesn't an offer have to be tendered beforehand? Is it not a straight forward, "Son we'd like you to play for the Crimson Tide, we're giving you an offer."

Or is it more like "Son, you've got all the tools to be an SEC standout and we've got our eye on you. If you're interested, let us know and we'll get back to you."

Or is it a combination of both depending on the player?

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	And, yes, I firmly believe we have several privates, right now.

I like it when you talk like that.

Thanks for the edit.

BamaInBham · July 30th, 2008, 08:36 AM

[quote=CrimsonSEC;875221]Now that's what I find a little hard to believe. I believe in CNS and all, but I find it hard to believe that anyone could have that much control over the fickle mind of an 18 year old.
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According to more than one knowlegable poster and board, this class has been 'sewn up' for a while - doesn't mean there is not maybea spot or 2 open, maybe not. The kids who have not publicly announced are just playing the recruiting/visiting/interview game until they and Bama decide it is time to announce. (One reason why most know that Trent Richardson is and has all along been a lock, despite appearances.)

Supposedly Bama already has over half of the 2010 class locked up, and is now focusing on finishing 2010 and working on 2011. Saban is the master

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So - Bama is taking no "less than blue-chipper" players. Maybe not in the recruiting services' minds, but in the Bama staff's, primarily Nick Saban's, mind. Saban's evaluation prowess is far, far, far greater than any recruiting service - far greater. There is also corruption in the recruiting services as well - and it is not speculation, they've been caught.

crimson_blood · July 30th, 2008, 09:01 AM

Ye of little faith

CNS has a plan folks...

If he can whittle 32 signees down and make them fit into his program and plan perfectly, he can handle it just as well this year.

BEATtutorsee · July 30th, 2008, 11:39 PM

	Quote:	CrimsonSEC
	Now that's what I find a little hard to believe. I believe in CNS and all, but I find it hard to believe that anyone could have that much control over the fickle mind of an 18 year old.

It's not really that far fetched IMO. Aside from maybe 2 or 3 players I firmly believe this class has been wrapped up, and has been for some time probably.