Link: OT Bobbie Massie Update - Page 5

dWarriors88 · January 7th, 2009, 11:21 AM

Yeah Love is gonna be good this year right? He rs'ed but he was pretty big coming out of high school. I think our tackle spot (once massie commits) will be solid, IMO we need a Center to step up to replace Caldwell

runtheoption22 · January 7th, 2009, 11:45 AM

	Quote:	dWarriors88
	Yeah Love is gonna be good this year right? He rs'ed but he was pretty big coming out of high school. I think our tackle spot (once massie commits) will be solid, IMO we need a Center to step up to replace Caldwell

Actually, he played, but will try to get a medical hardship waiver.

WMack4Bama · January 7th, 2009, 11:59 AM

After reading some of the projected responses, I have to ask this question: If the guys that we're bringing in are always better than the guys who we have, does that say more about our recruiting or about our development?

BamaNky37 · January 7th, 2009, 12:13 PM

	Quote:	WMack4Bama
	After reading some of the projected responses, I have to ask this question: If the guys that we're bringing in are always better than the guys who we have, does that say more about our recruiting or about our development?

I don't think its either per se. I just think that these guys we're recruiting for 2009 are fresher on the fans' mind than guys that were recruited last year, let alone 2008 and 2007.

RedStar · January 7th, 2009, 01:17 PM

	Quote:	BamaNky37
	I don't think its either per se. I just think that these guys we're recruiting for 2009 are fresher on the fans' mind than guys that were recruited last year, let alone 2008 and 2007.

And that will always be the case. Last year it was "Oh my gosh we just got Mark Ingram, Ivan Matchett and Jermaine Preayer to go along with Terry Grant, Glenn Coffee, Demetrius Goode and Roy Upchurch, our running game will be the greatest the world has ever seen!" Granted, we did have a great running game, but five of those guys either barely factored in, or didn't play at all. It was also, "We just got B.J. Scott! He'll be the Wes Welker to Julio's Randy Moss!" Yeah, that definitely didn't happen. Now it appears he'll line up on the defensive side of the ball next year.

I guess I get a little tired of the way we act when we get recruits. Don't get me wrong, it's easy, and perfectly ok to get excited. But we anoint these guys before they ever step on campus. Remember when we signed Nikita Stover? If things had worked out like we all thought they would Julio would have been the NEXT Nikita Stover, instead he's the first Julio. Even one of the guys I was most excited about, Alex Watkins, has been in the program for two years and hasn't even seen the field. So I'm not saying I don't do it either. But you're right, we have short memories when it comes to recruiting.

And I'm not saying some of these guys wont still be future stars, on the contrary, I think many of them will be, but it's all in due time. Most of the guys we got last year played like freshman, and that's not a knock on them, it's just the way it is. Very few, and I mean VERY FEW 18 year old's can come in and play in the SEC week in and week out. Julio, Donta and Ingram could all do it. And not only could they do it, but they excelled greatly at it. The 3 of them played above and beyond what nearly any true freshman I've ever seen has played.

Sorry to continue the OT discussion in this Bobbie Massie thread, this probably deserves a thread of its own, but I felt compelled to reiterate what BamaNky37 was saying. To relate it back to Massie, I'll go ahead and say that if he were to go ahead and sign with Bama, he's one of only 3 or 4 prospects we'd bring in that I could see having immediate playing time. His body is beyond his years. He looks as big and as fast as many of our current players.

pc2bama · January 7th, 2009, 01:25 PM

BOBBY BOBBY BOBBY

He's not your typical Freshman. I think he would play early and often. I hope we get him.

M2J · January 7th, 2009, 02:17 PM

	Quote:	Airborne Tider
	I think Davis should stay at RT and Massie should get his shot at either tackle. Hopefully Tyler Love comes back next season healthy and with added weight and can compete for one of those spots and Boswell should be vastly improved as well.

I'd say not only should Davis not be the LT, but he should be moved to RG, I'm just not happy with him on pass protection...especially against speed. He's a good run blocker, but he can be a liability defending the pass rush. I think Massie will be a RT @ the next level anyhow, and as said before he's not your typical freshman. I could see both he and Carpenter battling it out for the RT position with Love and Fluker and I guess Carpenter battling it out for the LT position.

M-TownTider · January 7th, 2009, 04:38 PM

I really hope we land Massie. That kid is a beast!

Airborne Tider · January 7th, 2009, 07:12 PM

	Quote:	M2J
	I'd say not only should Davis not be the LT, but he should be moved to RG, I'm just not happy with him on pass protection...especially against speed. He's a good run blocker, but he can be a liability defending the pass rush. I think Massie will be a RT @ the next level anyhow, and as said before he's not your typical freshman. I could see both he and Carpenter battling it out for the RT position with Love and Fluker and I guess Carpenter battling it out for the LT position.

Good point on Davis. Thats a reasonable observation.

BamaFanInCA · January 7th, 2009, 09:13 PM

	Quote:	M2J
	I'd say not only should Davis not be the LT, but he should be moved to RG, I'm just not happy with him on pass protection...especially against speed. He's a good run blocker, but he can be a liability defending the pass rush. I think Massie will be a RT @ the next level anyhow, and as said before he's not your typical freshman. I could see both he and Carpenter battling it out for the RT position with Love and Fluker and I guess Carpenter battling it out for the LT position.

sounds like he's another Mike Johnson