RB Storm Johnson withdraws disputed LSU commitment

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	Quote:	Wayne Disney
	why don't we offer him?

Numbers.

[Wayne Disney]

	Quote:	BEATtutorsee
	Numbers.

i thought so too, but someone said we will probably offer in-state RB D.J. Howard. go figure.

[Fishhead]

The latest from the grapevine...
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So Storm wanted to commit, but still wanted to take some visits he already had planned. The staff advised him to hold off committing until he took all his visits. Or so the story goes. He definitely has a committable offer though.
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After last year's last minute defection of Janzen Jackson to Tenorsee, I agree with the policy. If you are still taking visits, you are not a commit. You are a player with high interest in a school, but there is no commitment.
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From all indications, it was amicable, no bridge burned, just finish taking your visits and decide where you wanna play.

[Crimson Surfer]

	Quote:	Fishhead
	The latest from the grapevine... - So Storm wanted to commit, but still wanted to take some visits he already had planned. The staff advised him to hold off committing until he took all his visits. Or so the story goes. He definitely has a committable offer though. - After last year's last minute defection of Janzen Jackson to Tenorsee, I agree with the policy. If you are still taking visits, you are not a commit. You are a player with high interest in a school, but there is no commitment. - From all indications, it was amicable, no bridge burned, just finish taking your visits and decide where you wanna play.

Thanks for clarifying that situation. Your explaination makes perfect sense. It was a little confusing, he committed immediately he says he didn't. lol I will change the title accordingly.

He is still not an Alabama RB target unless something changes.

Storm Johnson - Football Recruiting

[bigmammal]

	Quote:	Fishhead
	The latest from the grapevine... - So Storm wanted to commit, but still wanted to take some visits he already had planned. The staff advised him to hold off committing until he took all his visits. Or so the story goes. He definitely has a committable offer though. - After last year's last minute defection of Janzen Jackson to Tenorsee, I agree with the policy. If you are still taking visits, you are not a commit. You are a player with high interest in a school, but there is no commitment. - From all indications, it was amicable, no bridge burned, just finish taking your visits and decide where you wanna play.

On the surface the no bridge burned sounds good but I wonder. If Storm was this year's Trent Richardson I bet LSU would take his commit and then call or visit him twice a day to keep it alive.

It is also possible Storm became a solid silent to LSU who can go around enjoying visits while spreading some LSU gospel on the q.t.

[GreenvilleTide]

Thanks, Fishhead!

[Hal Bennett]

Do you recall the M*A*S*H episode where Hawkeye and Radar and B. J. (or Trapper John) make up this imaginary doctor who is supposed to be on the unit's staff, and Hot Lips wants to meet him, etc.?

This guy Storm Johnson sounds like that character.

I have been keeping up with LSU football long enough to know that traditionally, LSU rarely, RARELY gets a player out of the state of Georgia. I also have noticed that Les Miles tries (IMO) to ape everything that Nick Saban does. Les has inherited the momentum in recruiting that Saban got rolling at LSU. That includes LSU's ability to recruit out of state, which was virtually non-existent before Saban got there. Even Paul Dietzel's 1958 national championship team was recruited entirely from the state of Louisiana. (You can check that out -- maybe ONE player from that entire roster came from out of state, if I remember correctly.)

Saban's MO has been to go into a place like, say, Mobile, recruit two or three three-star players as a start-up tactic, and, once he was gotten his foot in the door, then come the four and five-stars from the area. He opened up Mobile that way for LSU, and then he went down there and got Ivan Matchett and Jermain Preyear when he first settled here, and then the B. J. Scotts, Mark Barrons, and even Julio Joneses and Trent Richardsons came following from the general area.

Ol' Les is at it again, it looks to me like. If you'll look on his Rivals.com list of recruits this time, you'll see that he's got two three-stars already committed from the state of Georgia, but no four-stars. Big Whoop! Now, we are REALLY impressed with this guy Storm Johnson from Georgia. Scout has him a three-star, and I can't even find him on Rivals. And the reason we seem so impressed with Storm is that his name is STORM -- and LES has got him.

But I am not even sure that Storm has COMMITTED to LSU yet. I can't find him on any LSU commitment list. Will somebody please call up Hot Lips?

[Fishhead]

	Quote:	Hal Bennett
	Do you recall the M*A*S*H episode where Hawkeye and Radar and B. J. (or Trapper John) make up this imaginary doctor who is supposed to be on the unit's staff, and Hot Lips wants to meet him, etc.? This guy Storm Johnson sounds like that character. I have been keeping up with LSU football long enough to know that traditionally, LSU rarely, RARELY gets a player out of the state of Georgia. ***FAIL*** I also have noticed that Les Miles tries (IMO) to ape everything that Nick Saban does. Les has inherited the momentum in recruiting that Saban got rolling at LSU. That includes LSU's ability to recruit out of state, which was virtually non-existent before Saban got there. Even Paul Dietzel's 1958 national championship team was recruited entirely from the state of Louisiana. (You can check that out -- maybe ONE player from that entire roster came from out of state, if I remember correctly.) ***FAIL AGAIN*** Ol' Les is at it again, ***AT WHAT? RECRUITING??*** it looks to me like. If you'll look on his Rivals.com list of recruits this time, you'll see that he's got two three-stars already committed from the state of Georgia, but no four-stars. Big Whoop! Now, we are REALLY impressed with this guy Storm Johnson from Georgia. Scout has him a three-star, and I can't even find him on Rivals. And the reason we seem so impressed with Storm is that his name is STORM -- and LES has got him. But I am not even sure that Storm has COMMITTED to LSU yet. I can't find him on any LSU commitment list. Will somebody please call up Hot Lips?

You're at it again. Beautifully written, but sorry research. Why are you bitter? You have the best recruiter in CFB...and Les is pretty stinkin' good, too.
Here's where your research goes astray...
http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/commitlist.asp
Last year, two Rivals 4 stars from GA. Also, I believe everyone would agree that Storm Johnson is a 4 star once Rivals tweaks. It isn't even the HS season yet. There are current 5 stars that will end up as 3s or 4s, and there are unrated players that will end up as 4s and 5s.

'06 LSU signed 3 3 stars from GA.
'07 LSU signed a 4 star from GA
'08 LSU signed 2 3 stars from GA
'09 LSU signed 2 4 stars from GA
'10 remains to be seen, but we have two commits...not counting Storm, since he isn't committed. One is unrated, so he must not be any good. The other is a mere 3 star, the number 3 fullback in the country.

To be honest, the way LSU is raping the state of TX lately, I don't see how they have time to visit GA prospects...but they are doing quite well in GA. Ask Radar.

And to bring 1958 in a recruiting conversation is silly. Things have changed a little since then...whole different ballgame now. Different rules, different technologies, no comparison. Also, I would like a link to that info that LSUs 1958 NC team was recruited entirely from the state of LA. You said we could "check that out", "if you remember correctly". I seriously doubt you remember LSUs roster from 1958...and the hometowns of each player.

***hint***
Billy Cannon is not from LA

Another tidbit...
Roster for the 1958 LSU football national championship team - LSU Beat - Times-Picayune - NOLA.com

Looks like nearly 1/4th of the 1958 team was from out of state. I guess you didn't remember correctly.

[Fishhead]

	Quote:	GreenvilleTide
	Thanks, Fishhead!

You're welcome.

[bama61]

	Quote:	Fishhead
	***hint*** Billy Cannon is not from LA Another tidbit... Roster for the 1958 LSU football national championship team - LSU Beat - Times-Picayune - NOLA.com Looks like nearly 1/4th of the 1958 team was from out of state. I guess you didn't remember correctly.

Odd, I could have sworn that Baton Rouge was in LA unless of course, by LA you meant Lower Alabama. Even the roster you provided lists him as being from Baton Rouge....

Yes, I know that he was actually born in Mississippi, but after all, he attended grade school and high school in Louisiana. That pretty much makes him a resident of the state in my opinion. I always thought that the juvenile court ruling which essentially bound him to LSU was one of the slickest gimmicks I ever ran across. Kudos to the judge.

[Fishhead]

	Quote:	bama61
	Odd, I could have sworn that Baton Rouge was in LA unless of course, by LA you meant Lower Alabama. Even the roster you provided lists him as being from Baton Rouge.... Yes, I know that he was actually born in Mississippi, but after all, he attended grade school and high school in Louisiana. That pretty much makes him a resident of the state in my opinion. I always thought that the juvenile court ruling which essentially bound him to LSU was one of the slickest gimmicks I ever ran across. Kudos to the judge.

Yes. Cannon was born in Philadelphia, MS. Don't know where he went to high school. However, the point is that 13 of the 50 some odd players on that team were from out of state...not counting Cannon, and Mr. Bennett alleged that all of them were from LA, except for possibly one...to the best of his memory.

[BEATtutorsee]

	Quote:	Wayne Disney
	i thought so too, but someone said we will probably offer in-state RB D.J. Howard. go figure.

Yeah but Howard could be another slot target. It'll be interesting to see if we get a commitment from Corey Grant if Howard is still pursued. My guess would probably be no.

[Fishhead]

	Quote:	bigmammal
	On the surface the no bridge burned sounds good but I wonder. If Storm was this year's Trent Richardson I bet LSU would take his commit and then call or visit him twice a day to keep it alive. It is also possible Storm became a solid silent to LSU who can go around enjoying visits while spreading some LSU gospel on the q.t.

There are some LSU peeps that think he was asked to hold off publicly committing because they are worried it will hurt LSUs chances with Lache Seastrunk. I do not believe that is the case. Lache is this year's TR, and I don't think SJs decision will affect Lache's. Ironically, I think WR Trovon Reed's decision will affect Lache more than SJs...for whatever reason. I guess they have just become good friends, and want to play for the same team. Although Barners have "claimed" both Lache and Reed, they are finally acknowledging that Reed is leaning LSU. They still feel good about Lache, though. I don't think they should, FWIW. But again, I don't think Lache is an LSU lock, either. I think Reed is though.