The Trayvon Martin Case

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gmart74

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whenever i think i can't have a lower opinion of msm, they prove me wrong.... and of all people, it takes fox to show nbc laying loose with the facts

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/trayvon-martin-nbc-news-editing-911-call-306359
In the NBC segment, Zimmerman says: “This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black.”

The full version, though, unfolds like this:

Zimmerman: “This guy looks like he’s up to no good, or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about.”

911 operator: “Okay. And this guy, is he white black or Hispanic?”

Zimmerman: “He looks black.”
 

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Does anyone else have a problem with the president not saying anything about this bounty? As the ultimate authority on making sure our laws are enforced I have a significant problem with him ignoring this. They have lit the fuse and I guess they want it to go off.
 

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The bigger the Trayvon frenzy, the less people are talking about the "real" issues that the presbo doesn't want to discuss. Gas prices, unemployment, re-election, Iranian nukes, Keystone pipeline, Solyndra, Obamacare etc. The media just plays right into this also by keeping the story stirred.
 

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Does anyone else have a problem with the president not saying anything about this bounty? As the ultimate authority on making sure our laws are enforced I have a significant problem with him ignoring this. They have lit the fuse and I guess they want it to go off.
no, i dont. i like people to be consistent and not be hypocrites. obama has clearly sided with blacks every opportunity he has had and has openly supported a racist DoJ. so i at least give him credit for showing the nation who he truly is.
 

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The bigger the Trayvon frenzy, the less people are talking about the "real" issues that the presbo doesn't want to discuss. Gas prices, unemployment, re-election, Iranian nukes, Keystone pipeline, Solyndra, Obamacare etc. The media just plays right into this also by keeping the story stirred.
Preacher meet choir...

My point is the media and the powers that be want us caught up in some drama that way they can continue to do what they are doing...
Exactly....

Just like during the Populist Movement, the "powers" did not want the white's and black's to come together because they knew that unity amongst the poor farmers could change the political climate. Together we can make a stand, united we are weak. If you haven't noticed, since this story has started there has been little to no "political discussions", just racial ones. The focus is now off of making this country a better place and now is focused on how things are not fair for minorities. It is a strategic move by the media and the people that control the news. Unfortunately many of us are not educated enough to see this and live purely off of emotion, hence we probably will continue living in the segregated corrupt country for many more years, or until it has dried up and there is nothing left to steal. (I say segregated because whether you like it or not, many of us vote purely on race and race alone, it is truly sad!)
And all of those discussions have nothing to do with a corrupt government!

Hell if I was stealing money out of your back pocket I would be ecstatic if you were having intense debate about if gays could or couldn't get married...hmmm
 

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The bigger the Trayvon frenzy, the less people are talking about the "real" issues that the presbo doesn't want to discuss. Gas prices, unemployment, re-election, Iranian nukes, Keystone pipeline, Solyndra, Obamacare etc. The media just plays right into this also by keeping the story stirred.
Solid point - I understand why the media got involved when they did, but there is now a legit investigation taking place. At this point, the media is only hurting the local community, and just keep regurgitating the same information every day. But if this is being orchestrated by the left (which you didn't say, but the post suggests), why are people like Rush and Hannity still talking about it?
 

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Solid point - I understand why the media got involved when they did, but there is now a legit investigation taking place. At this point, the media is only hurting the local community, and just keep regurgitating the same information every day. But if this is being orchestrated by the left (which you didn't say, but the post suggests), why are people like Rush and Hannity still talking about it?

Agreed.

I'm a conservative. A Republican. Never voted for a Democrat. I have a huge collection of William F. Buckley first editions. Hell, I want to name a kid Edmund one day. But this...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/joshbarro/2012/03/26/trayvon-martin-and-the-rights-race-problem/

That's why we don't have a lot of credibility.

Then again....

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/294962/murders-don-t-count-rich-lowry
 
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Solid point - I understand why the media got involved when they did, but there is now a legit investigation taking place. At this point, the media is only hurting the local community, and just keep regurgitating the same information every day. But if this is being orchestrated by the left (which you didn't say, but the post suggests), why are people like Rush and Hannity still talking about it?
Because both sides should be heard. I know you don't support that from the abortion thread but both sides should be heard. If the MSM stops talking they will also.
 

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You can throw that article in File 13. Referencing that rigged poll by a Democratic outlet as actual proof of anything demonstrates the author himself has zero credibility on the issue.

Or is just a lazy jerk.

Oh and if anybody wants to talk about racism in politics, let's start with Bill Clinton intentionally scheduling his appearances in 1992 to appear with blacks ONLY after the evening newscasts went off.
 

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You can throw that article in File 13. Referencing that rigged poll by a Democratic outlet as actual proof of anything demonstrates the author himself has zero credibility on the issue.

Or is just a lazy jerk.

Oh and if anybody wants to talk about racism in politics, let's start with Bill Clinton intentionally scheduling his appearances in 1992 to appear with blacks ONLY after the evening newscasts went off.
I don't think that racism exists in politics. Every politician wants the vote of anyone stupid enough to step into the booth. But that doesn't mean that racism doesn't exist.
 

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You can throw that article in File 13. Referencing that rigged poll by a Democratic outlet as actual proof of anything demonstrates the author himself has zero credibility on the issue.

Or is just a lazy jerk.

Oh and if anybody wants to talk about racism in politics, let's start with Bill Clinton intentionally scheduling his appearances in 1992 to appear with blacks ONLY after the evening newscasts went off.
Very mature - did you write the writer's bio? He's a conservative himself; writes for National Review, City Journal and the WSJ. But if that's your attitude, this conversation is a non-starter.
 

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Society is fine looking the other way if one drug dealer kills another drug dealer but tends to take notice if some kid is coming home with Skittles and an iced tea and gets shot while hurting no one and minding his own business.
There are actually many many innocents killed in what you cavalierly refer to "one drug dealer kills another drug dealer". They get basically ignored by the usual activists (including Obama) because it is not politically useful.

But, you knew that, already.
 

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Society is fine looking the other way if one drug dealer kills another drug dealer but tends to take notice if some kid is coming home with Skittles and an iced tea and gets shot while hurting no one and minding his own business.
not if it is a black kid shot by another black kid.
 

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Society is fine looking the other way if one drug dealer kills another drug dealer but tends to take notice if some kid is coming home with Skittles and an iced tea and gets shot while hurting no one and minding his own business.[/QUOTE]

An assumption at this point.
 

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Very mature - did you write the writer's bio?
I read his article. He regurgitated a poll even Chris Mathews concedes is a flawed, a Democratic talking point - to make a point. WITHOUT THAT ERRONEOUS GROUND, his point is meaningless. "Hey, a lot of rednecks think Obama is a Muslim and I got a poll to prove it."

He then cites Circus Sideshow Donald Trump as representative of the mainstream of the Republican Party on the birth certificate issue. Lost in that very citation is the fact that none of the MSM did their jobs in 2008.

And how is questioning where Obama was born "racist?" It is hilarious to me that it was just fine to call Dick Cheney and George Bush murderers without the first shred of evidence for the better part of eight years. How often were we told that dissent was such a high form of patriotism? Now if you dissent - simply because the guy is black - you get called a racist. Does the clown who wrote this dispute that easily observable phenomena?

Dissent suddenly became racist on January 20, 2009 after being patriotic for eight years.


And then there's this pathetic line of laziness:

Better to leverage or at least accept the racism of much of the Republican base than try to clean it up.

Proof? None forthcoming. This guy would be a great liberal. MUCH of the Republican base is racist? Where's the data on that?

He's a conservative himself; writes for National Review, City Journal and the WSJ. But if that's your attitude, this conversation is a non-starter.
He wrote an incredibly lazy paper designed to soothe his guilt then.
 
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