So the element that is making this thing difficult to defend has nothing to do with the spread. But the no huddle? Like I said. This is the element that is causing defenses issues. The inability to read and adjust. No matter the offense being run. Alabama could run the no huddle with our pro style offense and accomplish the same thing.Fox's Officiating Consultant discussing this very issue:
I think the SEC defenses will be forced to go lighter and faster against TAMU, Ole Miss, Auburn, and the others that run this offense. This would be where Alabama would move Vinnie to OLB and bring in a better cover safety or CB. The only teams that have given Alabama trouble in recent years have been ones with an athletic QB. Even one as sorry as JJ as been been a threat because he can run. With a read-option type QB, you have to account for another football player. If you don't have Alabama type talent, you need to make defenses account for another player.What is your overall line of thinking regarding offenses like aTm's, Oregon's & Ole Miss'? Do you think that these style offenses are superior to the style defenses of an Alabama, LSU, Florida etc.? And that ultimately it is the SEC defenses that are the ones going to be forced to change, not these type offenses? Curious to read your thoughts.
Oregon was playing an Auburn team that was behind nearly every decent team they played in 2010. Several of AU opponents in 2010 outscored Oregon.Chip Kelly was leading late in the fourth quarter of a NC game. Not bad so far.
Chip Kelly was leading late in the fourth quarter of a NC game. Not bad so far.
I don't like the word gimmick really. Yes these teams have won lots of games. What do you do when you can't field 22 quality players? You load up on offense, score a lot of points and win games that way (except for the few who load their players on defense and hope you dont score, sort of Stallings-like) - in basketball you fast break, play uptempo and maybe full court pressure. Before the current crop of coaches there were the Hal Mummes, June Jones, etc. A big difference recently has been the addition of some unbelievably athletic QBs who could throw the option in there too making things even more difficult for the defenses. Eventually the fad starts to wane as teams begin to figure out how to defense it, teams can't get a Johnny Football every year, etc. Even Spurriers Fun and Gun was fading by the time he left UF. So uptempo, wide open, air raid, spread, whatever all the different components that may be included and have been around for years aren't really gimmicks as much as just a style of offense, although some of these offenses may be more prone to throw in a lot of gimmicky plays ala Malzahn and some of his stupid high school stuff.I think it's worth noting for the teams that properly execute these offenses - spread, no huddle, uptempo, air raid, zone read, pistol, etc. - they win a lot more than they lose. Tony Franklin commented on the offense one time and was quick to note that Baylor is now winning a lot more games than they previously did. I'm inclined to agree with that. Handled correctly these teams are winning most of the games they should and a few of the games they shouldn't. That has to count for something.
I really like what we do with our offense, and I don't want it to change. That said, it should be noted that as you all know we've used the pistol and certain spread formations and McElwain and Nuss are both products of the John L. Smith/Jack Elway one-back school that also influenced a lot of air-raid guys like Kevin Sumlin and Dana Holgorsen. Indeed, we're a more run heavy version of Petrino's offense, as Petrino learned most of his stuff from his time with JLS. We may run the ball, and run it well, but we don't play Stallings ball anymore.
The thing that we're not considering is that our offensive line recruiting is a rarity. The SEC can recruit lineman 3-deep in a way that other schools simply cannot, and so those schools have adjusted. Great defense is always important, and I know that uptempo teams have a hard time making their defenses work. But I don't blame any coach for doing what he can with the resources he has, and to chalk up an entire school of offense - one that has influenced what we do! - to gimmicks, ratings and video games is patronizing to both the players and coaches.
They lost to a team doing the same thing.But they lost. You don't get a crystal ball for leading late in the fourth. I believe if you check the stats for that game you'll find that Oregon couldn't run or stop the run and lost. In fact, I'd bet that if you checked the stats for most of the BCSNCG's you'd find that the losers couldn't or didn't run the ball, and couldn't stop the run. It's not rocket science, coaches have known this for years....but knowing what you need to do and doing it are two different things. A lot of old-timers (myself included) see these types of offenses as a shortcut to a NC in lieu of doing what's necessary to win a NC. Other coaches are basically saying "I can't get the players and do what is necessary, so I'm going try it this way". It's a microcosm of these times, ask CNS..."I want the rewards without the work".
They lost to a team doing the same thing.
Alabama's defensive brain trust learned a lot during our last meeting. I don't think you guys have to worry about preparing for the 2013 Alabama offense. Everyone knows what's coming.Next year's game will be great because it's at Kyle field and both teams have all summer to prepare for each other's offenses. We have lost a couple of assistant coaches (offensive coordinator, LB coach, Special Teams) to other jobs already, so it will be interesting to see how/if our offensive philosophy changes.
as of right now my brother and i are planning on making the trip to college station for that game and i can't wait. i road tripped out for the infamous hurricane [non] game in 1988 and have been waiting a long time to make that trip up.Next year's game will be great because it's at Kyle field and both teams have all summer to prepare for each other's offenses. We have lost a couple of assistant coaches (offensive coordinator, LB coach, Special Teams) to other jobs already, so it will be interesting to see how/if our offensive philosophy changes.