"As the Plains Burn" Summary of Cam Newton Saga on TD.com

LSUFan21 · Nov 17, 2010

I haven't posted here in a couple of years, but I thought that you guys might be interested in this if you haven't already seen it.

The SEC Rant on Tigerdroppings.com (different from the Tiger Rant) has done a bang-up job of following the Cam Newton story. One of the posters over there wrote an amazing summary with a timeline of what has happened. No one is really able to refute it.

If you want some amazing reading, pull up a chair and take about a half hour to go behind the scenes. This will be a movie one day.

As the Plains Burn......... - SEC Football - TigerDroppings.com

Looks like Auburn is toast.

derek4tide · Nov 17, 2010

Wow, very good stuff. Great research and a great read.

bamanut_aj · Nov 17, 2010

LSUFan21 said:
I haven't posted here in a couple of years, but I thought that you guys might be interested in this if you haven't already seen it.

The SEC Rant on Tigerdroppings.com (different from the Tiger Rant) has done a bang-up job of following the Cam Newton story. One of the posters over there wrote an amazing summary with a timeline of what has happened. No one is really able to refute it.

If you want some amazing reading, pull up a chair and take about a half hour to go behind the scenes. This will be a movie one day.

As the Plains Burn......... - SEC Football - TigerDroppings.com

Looks like Auburn is toast.

if even HALF of that scenario is true, aubie is toast. Dude either has a vivid imagination and too much time on his hands, or he knows a little something....

TideprideRTR · Nov 17, 2010

Didn't have time to read it all, but I skimmed it and it very detailed. This is a great thread and look forward to reading it all soon.

Saint&Sinner · Nov 17, 2010

Oh my word. If even half of that is true... :eek2:

LSUFan21 · Nov 17, 2010

bamanut_aj said:
if even HALF of that scenario is true, aubie is toast. Dude either has a vivid imagination and too much time on his hands, or he knows a little something....

He didn't come up with it. He summarized a 69 page thread that was initiated by the W&L post on BOL last week. Lots of stuff came out in that thread and lots of dots were connected. He just put it all together.

None of it is original with him. He is just the summarizer.

bayoutider · Nov 17, 2010

It's posted somewhere on this board not sure where I think we are losing control of the topic.

RamJamHam · Nov 17, 2010

That certainly has some sex appeal, with the FBI, Lowder, McGregor, etc. allegedly involved. I agree with BamanutAJ, if half of that is true (or at least taken as true by the NCAA) AU is in deep doodoo.

Is it coincidence that the same alleged method of payment - gambling chips and lines of credit - that the NCAA said we used on Albert Means is also alleged here?

CrimsonSEC · Nov 17, 2010

Cecil Hurt twittered a couple of hours ago that... "If this story winds up with Cecil Newton chasing Milton McGregor down a driveway with a nine iron , I gives up."

RJ YellowHammer · Nov 17, 2010

RamJamHam said:
That certainly has some sex appeal, with the FBI, Lowder, McGregor, etc. allegedly involved. I agree with BamanutAJ, if half of that is true (or at least taken as true by the NCAA) AU is in deep doodoo.

Is it coincidence that the same alleged method of payment - gambling chips and lines of credit - that the NCAA said we used on Albert Means is also alleged here?

No it's not. Casino chips are used to launder money all the time. Bear in mind that some rules still apply to transactions in casinos. If your total transactions in a 24 hour period are greater than $10,000, a CTR has to be filed, so any money moved trough casinos has to be done in smaller increments. The interesting thing is that if the Casino itself were paying winnings that weren't earned, like some are hypothesizing Victoryland did, W2G forms would be given and the money would be "clean."

SavannahDare · Nov 17, 2010

Yeah, the link to this is in the Monster Cam Thread, buried about 400 pages deep.

I have read most of this lovely little scenario, but I want to go back over it with a fine-tooth comb.

Thanks for posting the link.

BradtheImpaler · Nov 17, 2010

RJ YellowHammer said:
No it's not. Casino chips are used to launder money all the time. Bear in mind that some rules still apply to transactions in casinos. If your total transactions in a 24 hour period are greater than $10,000, a CTR has to be filed, so any money moved trough casinos has to be done in smaller increments. The interesting thing is that if the Casino itself were paying winnings that weren't earned, like some are hypothesizing Victoryland did, W2G forms would be given and the money would be "clean."

I would think that moving chips through a casino would be difficult given all of the eyes in the sky watching. It sounds good in principle, until you look up and see all of the surveillance.

Unless of course, you own the casino and sign those eyes' paychecks.

Crimsongator · Nov 17, 2010

SavannahDare said:
Yeah, the link to this is in the Monster Cam Thread, buried about 400 pages deep.

I have read most of this lovely little scenario, but I want to go back over it with a fine-tooth comb.

Thanks for posting the link.

Hence the problem with the many paged threads - I usually give up after the first few pages.

gator

RJ YellowHammer · Nov 17, 2010

BradtheImpaler said:
I would think that moving chips through a casino would be difficult given all of the eyes in the sky watching. It sounds good in principle, until you look up and see all of the surveillance.

Unless of course, you own the casino and sign those eyes' paychecks.

Surveillance doesn't worry too much about things that don't involve defrauding the casino.

tidefanbeezer · Nov 17, 2010

Great article.

I love that he notes that Terry Bowden is also know as Tater Tot.

gmoney · Nov 17, 2010

wow, very good read.
to the poster of this you did an incredible job putting everything together and listing the parties involved and all the connecting stories.if this all comes to fruition with proof getting put on probation will be aubies least concern

BamaFossil · Nov 17, 2010

Interesting. Lots of innuendo and speculation. If even half of this turns out to be accurate, it'll be a headache for Auburn, the SEC, and college football in general.

The write-up does hold together on something I've pondered about. Namely, the whole Wingnut resign-but-still-receive-$5M scenario. The explanations given at the time made no sense whatsoever. But the situation makes perfect sense if the OP is in the ballpark of being accurate.

chuxlee · Nov 17, 2010

I cant get this huge smile off my face...

CrimsonDollar · Nov 17, 2010

I almost feel bad for the Newton family in this situation.

Say you're "innocently" transporting a large quantity of some illegal substance across state lines in your car. All of a sudden, you get hit by a careening getaway SUV manned by the perpetrators of a million dollar bank robbery.

When the police show up, you're still in trouble, whether they were already on to you or not.

----This concludes my metaphor for the Newton situation. ----

tidefan89 · Nov 17, 2010

chuxlee said:
I cant get this huge smile off my face...

I know. Isn't it great!

arty:

"As the Plains Burn" Summary of Cam Newton Saga on TD.com

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