Re: 2013 LB Reuben Foster Flips, Commits to Auburn
He is a great talent...everyone makes mistakes. In Saban I trust.
He is a great talent...everyone makes mistakes. In Saban I trust.
LB Reuben Foster Decommits from Auburn
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Re: 2013 LB Reuben Foster Flips, Commits to Auburn
They would do it and for that matter they have by offering schollies to players that don't even fit their system just because they have a high rating.
Not a good reason to waste a schollie.......
They would do it and for that matter they have by offering schollies to players that don't even fit their system just because they have a high rating.
Re: 2013 LB Reuben Foster Flips, Commits to Auburn
Don't get me wrong, I understand the hesitancy with someone who changed his mind. But this is the way it is now. You don't stop recruiting the best players even if they have been branded (er um inked) by another program unless there is no chance. Our coaching staff may have made the determination that may be the case here, but I doubt it given the problems at Auburn. This young man has as much talent as anyone out there. There are no sure things, but you don't just pass on a player like him.
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Don't get me wrong, I understand the hesitancy with someone who changed his mind. But this is the way it is now. You don't stop recruiting the best players even if they have been branded (er um inked) by another program unless there is no chance. Our coaching staff may have made the determination that may be the case here, but I doubt it given the problems at Auburn. This young man has as much talent as anyone out there. There are no sure things, but you don't just pass on a player like him.
Re: 2013 LB Reuben Foster Flips, Commits to Auburn
I agree with everything you said up until this part and I have no clue as to this individual as to what I am about to write. You do pass if the player's talents are overshadowed by his attitude and determination. I'm sure our staff has a good assessment in that department and I will be happy either way they go regarding this athletes recruitment.
Re: 2013 LB Reuben Foster Flips, Commits to Auburn
I do think our coaches go through some form of an evaluation based on what you're talking about. The youtube video of Coach Saban speaking to a summer football camp group in 2011 is a good indication of it. In the video he tells the players that they will be coached the exact same way the college players are coached. They will be asked to do the same things the same way. He instructs the players that the coaches WILL EXPECT them to do everything they ask just like they tell them to do it. It maybe different than what they've been taught but he still expects them to do it just the way the Alabama coaches ask them to do it and do it with 100% effort. So being "coachable" seems to be a big deal with our staff and CNS. I'm sure this also goes into the evaluation process of a recruit.
Re: 2013 LB Reuben Foster Flips, Commits to Auburn
I'm in the dark on what is going on with Foster (just like about 99% of people out there), but just remember that everything he said when he decommitted from Bama and committed to the Barn was straight from the Barners coaches. He just said what he'd been told to say.
Now, has he started to really believe all of that garbage???
Is he worth taking back, if he wants to come back???
Can the tat be removed???:biggrin:
That's what our coaches/recruiters will determine, so like others have said, I'm fine with whatever happens.
I'm in the dark on what is going on with Foster (just like about 99% of people out there), but just remember that everything he said when he decommitted from Bama and committed to the Barn was straight from the Barners coaches. He just said what he'd been told to say.
Now, has he started to really believe all of that garbage???
Is he worth taking back, if he wants to come back???
Can the tat be removed???:biggrin:
That's what our coaches/recruiters will determine, so like others have said, I'm fine with whatever happens.
Re: 2013 LB Reuben Foster Flips, Commits to Auburn
Remember the movie Miracle? Herb Brooks, said "I'm not looking for the best players, I'm looking for the right ones."
Is Foster a great player? Certainly. Is he the right player for our team? That remains to be seen. I will trust CNS.
Remember the movie Miracle? Herb Brooks, said "I'm not looking for the best players, I'm looking for the right ones."
Is Foster a great player? Certainly. Is he the right player for our team? That remains to be seen. I will trust CNS.
Re: 2013 LB Reuben Foster Flips, Commits to Auburn
I honestly don't know...so I'm just asking: Has CNS said this OR are you speculating?
Re: 2013 LB Reuben Foster Flips, Commits to Auburn
I'm sure this is somewhere in this epic thread, but what Alabama coach would/did recruit him?
I'm sure this is somewhere in this epic thread, but what Alabama coach would/did recruit him?
Re: 2013 LB Reuben Foster Flips, Commits to Auburn
I think it's kinda been carefully worded by a few mods, but when CNS got wind of the switcharoo that the aubies and RF planned, CNS issued an "ultimatum" if you will. Look back at the language of Foster's announcement where he switched to the barn. It mirrors Yeldon's December announcement for us almost word for word. After a kid tries to pull a stunt like that, it may be speculation, but it would take a lot for CNS to want to mend fences.
Re: 2013 LB Reuben Foster Flips, Commits to Auburn
Rivals lists Kirby Smart as the recruiter. It lists Troopa as the barn's primary recruiter.
Re: 2013 LB Reuben Foster Flips, Commits to Auburn
That said, there I have seen no evidence of any reach from either side, others may know more than me.
As for the tattoo and the specific language on the switch, I think Auburn was doing everything they could to make him prove it to a point that it would be hard for him to change his mind again. It happened too many times to them recently. However, the fact that they have lost so much and there is every reason to believe every coach will be gone may have neutralized anything that they have in the bank in that regard.
Agreed, and like Buzzard said, coach Saban's evaluation process works very well. When I said, "you just don't pass" I meant that in the sense that even if there are valid reasons to give pause, his talent level MAY BE high enough that it may be worth the chance. As addressed earlier he probably needs Alabama more than Alabama needs him, but I doubt seriously we will just brush off a serious reach from his side out to ours.
That said, there I have seen no evidence of any reach from either side, others may know more than me.
As for the tattoo and the specific language on the switch, I think Auburn was doing everything they could to make him prove it to a point that it would be hard for him to change his mind again. It happened too many times to them recently. However, the fact that they have lost so much and there is every reason to believe every coach will be gone may have neutralized anything that they have in the bank in that regard.
Re: 2013 LB Reuben Foster Flips, Commits to Auburn
As someone previously stated with less than fifth-hand knowledge, there's significant reason to believe he'll stay with AU and no reason for the speculation he will leave besides the fact that their program is turning into a catastrophe. While that is a strong reason not to go to a school, they can still offer a lot for him.
1. His mom is there (I won't go into the circumstances regarding that arrangement)
2. He is practically guaranteed to be a starter as a true frosh
3. With no need to compete for playing time, his raw skills will be noticed by scouts
4. Raw skills still often translate into high draft status, so he may get drafted high even without being coached properly
5. He has been embraced by the team since switching - regardless of who coaches, most of the players he feels close to will still be there
6. He can't really go anywhere else and save face at this point - the speech didn't lock him in, but the tattoo probably did
I really don't see him switching. Even if he wanted to, I can't imagine he'd be allowed to come here on scholarship - how would Saban trust that he wasn't going to pull the same stunt again?
As someone previously stated with less than fifth-hand knowledge, there's significant reason to believe he'll stay with AU and no reason for the speculation he will leave besides the fact that their program is turning into a catastrophe. While that is a strong reason not to go to a school, they can still offer a lot for him.
1. His mom is there (I won't go into the circumstances regarding that arrangement)
2. He is practically guaranteed to be a starter as a true frosh
3. With no need to compete for playing time, his raw skills will be noticed by scouts
4. Raw skills still often translate into high draft status, so he may get drafted high even without being coached properly
5. He has been embraced by the team since switching - regardless of who coaches, most of the players he feels close to will still be there
6. He can't really go anywhere else and save face at this point - the speech didn't lock him in, but the tattoo probably did
I really don't see him switching. Even if he wanted to, I can't imagine he'd be allowed to come here on scholarship - how would Saban trust that he wasn't going to pull the same stunt again?
Re: 2013 LB Reuben Foster Flips, Commits to Auburn
There's a quote.over on woollyal.com from his teammate Evans saying Reuben may make the trip with him this weekend to Tuscaloosa
There's a quote.over on woollyal.com from his teammate Evans saying Reuben may make the trip with him this weekend to Tuscaloosa
Re: 2013 LB Reuben Foster Flips, Commits to Auburn
Based on what I know about this situation, this ^^^^^^^
Re: 2013 LB Reuben Foster Flips, Commits to Auburn
If he does show up this weekend, though, that would be very interesting. Auburn is playing a big home game against Texas A&M in which their coaching staff is literally coaching for their coaching lives, and he shows up in Tuscaloosa? That would be definitely some food for thought, but again we haven't gotten there just yet.
In any event, there are a lot of rumors out there now with Foster, and frankly that is the status quo for him. His recruitment has been an outright circus for months now, and there is no real reason to expect that will change with Signing Day nearing and the Auburn implosion continuing. He has taken at least one unofficial visit in recent weeks to another school, and official visits are planned, even though he is keeping up the Auburn family mantra.
For our purposes, would we reconsider? Hard to say right now. We are looking to add another linebacker in the class, but unless something changed in the past week, our coaching staff has not been in touch with Foster for months now. I'm not going to say it is impossible, but a lot of relationships would have to be repaired first.
Kind of a belated response, obviously, but it's a possibility. I don't know I would give this whole report of him visiting for the MSU game much credence -- one writer says one teammate said he might visit? -- because that is far from written in stone. We'll just have to see whether or not he shows up. Even if he skips out against MSU and A&M, however, it wouldn't be a shock to see him back in town for the Iron Bowl.deliveryman35 said:
If he does show up this weekend, though, that would be very interesting. Auburn is playing a big home game against Texas A&M in which their coaching staff is literally coaching for their coaching lives, and he shows up in Tuscaloosa? That would be definitely some food for thought, but again we haven't gotten there just yet.
In any event, there are a lot of rumors out there now with Foster, and frankly that is the status quo for him. His recruitment has been an outright circus for months now, and there is no real reason to expect that will change with Signing Day nearing and the Auburn implosion continuing. He has taken at least one unofficial visit in recent weeks to another school, and official visits are planned, even though he is keeping up the Auburn family mantra.
For our purposes, would we reconsider? Hard to say right now. We are looking to add another linebacker in the class, but unless something changed in the past week, our coaching staff has not been in touch with Foster for months now. I'm not going to say it is impossible, but a lot of relationships would have to be repaired first.
Re: 2013 LB Reuben Foster Flips, Commits to Auburn
Per his Twitter -- assuming it's legit -- Foster was in Auburn this weekend watching AU get knocked around by A&M. Apparently left after the first quarter, though.
Per his Twitter -- assuming it's legit -- Foster was in Auburn this weekend watching AU get knocked around by A&M. Apparently left after the first quarter, though.
Re: 2013 LB Reuben Foster Flips, Commits to Auburn
Hmm....Sounds like the train has indeed left the station with Mr. Foster. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up following the Taylors or the Lupers at the end of the season.
Hmm....Sounds like the train has indeed left the station with Mr. Foster. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up following the Taylors or the Lupers at the end of the season.
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