Question: How is Eddie Lacy doing?

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Someone told me it is going extremely well but he is a little overweight due to times of inactivity but he will lose this weight before the start of the season. He is expected to wear custom cleats this coming year.
 

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Someone told me it is going extremely well but he is a little overweight due to times of inactivity but he will lose this weight before the start of the season. He is expected to wear custom cleats this coming year.
On Twitter he said "making progress. getting better with time," which is really not all that encouraging. However, a poster on another site claimed to know his dad and that the dad said he was 100% and just needed to make the mental stride (my words, not his).
 

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On Twitter he said "making progress. getting better with time," which is really not all that encouraging. However, a poster on another site claimed to know his dad and that the dad said he was 100% and just needed to make the mental stride (my words, not his).
That's what I was wondering. I'm hoping mental strides is all he needs.

Thanks folks!

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This is my gut feeling considering I have not heard that he won't be ready.

He starts regardless of if he's 100% or not. He'll want to play, coach Saban will want him to play and the team needs him to play. It is crucial that we have the seasoned NFL caliber Lacy in the lineup for at-least the first few games, if not for just the mental aspect that everything is normal. It will also be crucial in getting the young backs situated If it is determined at some point early to mid season that that he is deteriorating, then pull Lacy and he will either heal by next season or know if it's going to be a reoccurring problem.

I would think that the rest period for turf toe has been met. I am sure someone has more knowledge. I say he plays unless he's really hurting.
 

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This is my gut feeling considering I have not heard that he won't be ready.

He starts regardless of if he's 100% or not. He'll want to play, coach Saban will want him to play and the team needs him to play. It is crucial that we have the seasoned NFL caliber Lacy in the lineup for at-least the first few games, if not for just the mental aspect that everything is normal. It will also be crucial in getting the young backs situated If it is determined at some point early to mid season that that he is deteriorating, then pull Lacy and he will either heal by next season or know if it's going to be a reoccurring problem.

I would think that the rest period for turf toe has been met. I am sure someone has more knowledge. I say he plays unless he's really hurting.
I'd say that's pretty accurate. One thing, though, there really isn't a standard "rest period," for this injury nor for rehab following surgery. It's a complex joint and a complex injury. Up to 50% of people receiving surgery have some residual disability and, with his not being 100% (in his own opinion) yet, I believe he'll fall into that 50%. Question is how much disability and how much it will affect his play...
 

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I'd say that's pretty accurate.
If anyone is in agreement with me, I'll take Earle everytime :)

I think many of us have our education on turf toe exclusively because of the Lacy. I had heard of it but had no idea of the severity. Does the injury have grades, or is it just Turf Toe period? It would seem like you could have slight, moderate or severe turf toe.
 
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I have been suffering with mild turf toe from exercise (running & Insanity) and can tell you it hurts like you won't believe. I cannot imagine having the level of injury that Lacy likely has. There are days I can't stand on my toes to reach something in the top cabinet without screaming. Bad thing is, the more you stay off of it the better it gets, but as soon as you get back to your regular, vigorous activity it flares back up. I am pretty sure this is something that will never go away. You just have to power through the pain. :frown:
 

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There was a thread here recently that went into the details of the surgery, the recovery, and the absolute uncertainty as to whether he'll ever be the same. Seems that, due to the severity of his condition, if he makes a full recovery he will have defeated the odds.
 

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There was a thread here recently that went into the details of the surgery, the recovery, and the absolute uncertainty as to whether he'll ever be the same. Seems that, due to the severity of his condition, if he makes a full recovery he will have defeated the odds.
This sounds like a situation in which you very much hope for the best but most assuredly prepare for the worst when it comes to preparing the backfield for `12.
 

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If anyone is in agreement with me, I'll take Earle everytime :)

I think many of us have our education on turf toe exclusively because of the Lacy. I had heard of it but had no idea of the severity. Does the injury have grades, or is it just Turf Toe period? It would seem like you could have slight, moderate or severe turf toe.
It has numbered grades and only the worst get surgery...
 

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There was a thread here recently that went into the details of the surgery, the recovery, and the absolute uncertainty as to whether he'll ever be the same. Seems that, due to the severity of his condition, if he makes a full recovery he will have defeated the odds.
I'd say you're right. Just having to have surgery for the condition is not good news to start with. With the outcome so iffy, they try every possible conservative option first...
 

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I'm gonna be an optomist and say that he plays, but I don't think he'll get nearly the # of carries that TR got last year. I see it as more of a runningback by committee this year. If Dee's (mentally) over his injury, and Yeldon keeps improving, plus you throw in Jalston F., I think we'll be fine.
 

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If anyone is in agreement with me, I'll take Earle everytime :)

I think many of us have our education on turf toe exclusively because of the Lacy. I had heard of it but had no idea of the severity. Does the injury have grades, or is it just Turf Toe period? It would seem like you could have slight, moderate or severe turf toe.
According to this link, there are three grades of the injury. It says that the third-degree injury generally doesn't require surgery. Then you get into the Surgical Treatment part, and it sheds light on how bad it must be before surgery is indicated -- it's truly a last resort, essentially to prevent lifetime disability. The article also mentions 50% having residual disability as long as 5 years out. In addition to pushing off, it mentions difficulty in pivoting motions, something really important to Lacy's running style.

I really wish the prognosis were better. According to everything I've read, surgery is a last resort. If the injury wouldn't respond to non-surgical treatment that's bad, bad news. He is young, he's in incredible physical condition otherwise, and he is receiving the best medical treatment available in modern medicine. So maybe he can beat the odds.

Look, I hope Eddie Lacy gets 250 carries, 1,500 yards, and is the next in a line of Heisman winners / candidates. But as much as it hurts to think this way, prudent risk management just doesn't allow us to plan 2012's running game around Lacy averaging even 15 carries a game, less as the season wears on.

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1236962-treatment
 
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The lack of any official update can mean only one thing--he had nano-tendons implanted and a bionic big toe attached during the off-season.
 

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According to this link, there are three grades of the injury. .....................

.................... But as much as it hurts to think this way, prudent risk management just doesn't allow us to plan 2012's running game around Lacy averaging even 15 carries a game, less as the season wears on.

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1236962-treatment
I am wondering if Turf Toe is partially caused and exasperated by a players running style in association with his body weight. So even if a player fully recovers from high grade turf toe, he might go right back to mechanics that helped bring on the condition, a never ending cycle. Genetics, like with just about all injuries is the dominant reason some get it and some don't I would think.

Injuries to the feet or back are some of the most painful to play through. I nearly gave up football due to reoccurring lower back strains that could last the entire season. One year I would get it, the next I wouldn't. Today they probably know how to get someone back to 100% in a couple of weeks.

Maybe Turf Toe has such a non menacing name because the people that coined the name didn't have it or understand it. I bet people that have it could come up with some better names:)
 
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According to this link, there are three grades of the injury. It says that the third-degree injury generally doesn't require surgery. Then you get into the Surgical Treatment part, and it sheds light on how bad it must be before surgery is indicated -- it's truly a last resort, essentially to prevent lifetime disability. The article also mentions 50% having residual disability as long as 5 years out. In addition to pushing off, it mentions difficulty in pivoting motions, something really important to Lacy's running style.

I really wish the prognosis were better. According to everything I've read, surgery is a last resort. If the injury wouldn't respond to non-surgical treatment that's bad, bad news. He is young, he's in incredible physical condition otherwise, and he is receiving the best medical treatment available in modern medicine. So maybe he can beat the odds.

Look, I hope Eddie Lacy gets 250 carries, 1,500 yards, and is the next in a line of Heisman winners / candidates. But as much as it hurts to think this way, prudent risk management just doesn't allow us to plan 2012's running game around Lacy averaging even 15 carries a game, less as the season wears on.

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1236962-treatment
Does Kenyan Drake come in August? Who is a most akin to in body type and running style ?
 
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