They learned when you expend all of your energy in beating Bama 35-0, it is best not to go to Syracuse, or anywhere else, the following week.Florida hasn't played an OOC game outside of Florida since 1991.
Just sayin...
I suspect quite the contrary is true. We welcome the opportunity to go head-to-head with great programs such as yours. It really has to do with scheduling and conference play . . . most SEC teams would rather NOT home and home with ND if the ND home is in late October or November (weather AND conference play) so that leaves September and a lot of teams to schedule since ND is not in a conference.They used to have home and home series with both LSU and tennessee, but it's been awhile. They have beaten tennessee the last two or three times they played them, even when tennessee was the better team. LSU, on the other hand is a different matter. The last LSU-Notre Dame game was in the Sugar Bowl after the 2006 season, and LSU won going away, 41-14. I can see why they haven't scheduled another home and home with them since. I would love for Bama to get another home and home with them, but I know that they don't want any part of us.
ND was blackballed by the Big Ten and, as a consequence, it would likely be the LAST place they would end up. However, you all can thank the Big Ten blackballing for the national following that ND attained. Since the kids in their backyard would not play ND, they went coast-to-coast playing any team that sould schedule them. You obviously know what happened thereafter . . . it is why ND jealously guards indpendence, it truly was 'us' against 'them'This is why their move towards the ACC puzzles me. I would have thought if they were going to move "toward" a conference it would have been the big 10. That is where they have more natural rivalries.
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we're like 1-5 against them, correct?...In all fairness, they beat our brains out the next year, and I believe this is the only time we've ever won. If we both go undefeated, it would make for a great rematch.
We were 0-for-everything against Tejas not long ago. We had lost 6 in a row against the barnyard not long ago. We were declared 'irrelevant' by a fat orange pumpkin not long ago.we're like 1-5 against them, correct?...
hopefully we get to start evening this out this season...but the fact is they've had our number over the years (one of the few teams that have...)
I didnt say we weren't going to be fine...We were 0-for-everything against Tejas not long ago. We had lost 6 in a row against the barnyard not long ago. We were declared 'irrelevant' by a fat orange pumpkin not long ago.
We're gonna be fine.
Not squabblin' with you, just reassuring. ND is no pushover, and I'm sure it'll be a good game. Still, we're gonna be fine.I didnt say we weren't going to be fine...
Could you elaborate on the reasoning behind the television contracts getting involved in a conference team scheduling a neutral site game in their own state? Does it cover the entire conference footprint or just the conference team's state?Any time you can play an off-site home game in the opponents home state (Maryland), you have shafted them. Which is why the Big 12 and SEC TV contracts prevent that.
We are not talking about neutral site games. We are talking about off-site home games whereby the school (ND in this case) books the stadium, controls ALL of the tickets, and their TV network (NBC in this case) has the TV rights. None of that is the case with the Chick-Fil-A Kickoff Classic.Could you elaborate on the reasoning behind the television contracts getting involved in a conference team scheduling a neutral site game in their own state? Does it cover the entire conference footprint or just the conference team's state?
Do you know if UGA had to get a waiver when they played Boise State in Atlanta?
I am a regular visitor/infrequent poster on NDNation. What ND1976 writes above captures the zeitgeist of that site on this issue.Our previous AD, Dr. Kevin White, watered down the schedule in general and in particular with an annual "off-site home game", now called the "Shamrock Series", where we would play in Yankee Stadium, Soldier Field, etc. with no return game in the visitor's stadium. Then he was also scheduling 6 or 7 true home games. The 7-4-1 model meant three home "buy" games on top of the "off-site home game", leaving little room for adding a quality opponent on top of those four games and the "regulars" - USC, Michigan, Michigan State, Navy, Purdue, Stanford, and sometimes Pitt or BC or BYU, and sometimes an additional service academy (but not as often as you guys think). The 7-4-1 watering down drove us alums crazy. Additionally, our Big 10 opponents claim they will not play any out of conference games once their conference play starts. USC will no longer play us in November in South Bend, so we play them at home in October in odd years and on the coast Thanksgiving weekend in even years. We play Stanford at home in October in even years and and on the coast Thanksgiving in even years. (Although both Alabama and Tennessee have come to South Bend in December.)
I wish I could say with total confidence that Dr. White was not trying to duck you guys, but I can't. Anyway, Dr. White was an outlier, and things have changed.
7-4-1 is now 6-5-1. Michigan and Michigan State are no longer regulars. (They may become "occasionals". Although like most alums I am weary of Michigan's b.s.) We have picked up a couple of home and home with Texas in place of Michigan, and will be adding more quality opponents in that slot, including hopeful some home and homes with you guys. Pitt and BC will count against our ACC allotment. Oklahoma is playing in South Bend next year. I think Purdue and may have to be willing to play us in October or November if they want to remain a regular.
Brian Kelly and our new AD Jack Swarbrick have both stated they want to get back to playing a more national national schedule. Kelly has said we have to play and beat SEC teams to be the best. When Kelly got to ND he said he had to build a SEC type defense to compete for the championship. Trust me, we respect you guys.
The ND people who went to the our games at Alabama report that that you guys are great hosts. (Games at LSU, not so much.) I went to the '73 Sugar Bowl and the 1976 game in South Bend and found the Alabama folks to be friendly and sportsmanlike. Looking forward to more good games with you guys.