Page 4 of 10 FirstFirst 12345678910 LastLast
Results 40 to 52 of 126
  1. #40
    FB Moderator Bamabuzzard's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    Where ever there's BBQ, Crawfish & Football
    Posts
    18,175
    Recipes
    1
    Post Thanks / Like
    My Mood
    Cheerful on TideFans.com

    Re: Rate Doug Nussmeier at the halfway point

    Quote Originally Posted by Rasputin View Post
    One word: Screen
    I agree. But that can't be our only answer.
    The existence of God isn't determined in the thoughts of man. God exist, no matter what man thinks.

    "It cost a lot of money to look this cheap."-Dolly Parton.

    "If you ever want to know how good your barbecue is start charging for it"-Myron Mixon

  2. Advertisement
  3. #41
    Senior Administrator TIDE-HSV's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 1999
    Location
    Huntsville, AL,USA
    Posts
    42,968
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Rate Doug Nussmeier at the halfway point

    Quote Originally Posted by Rasputin View Post
    One word: Screen
    A couple of times we tried to set the screen and DJ was beaten so quickly, it never had time to develop...
    "The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for curiosity. - Ellen Parr"

    'If today were the last day of my life, would I want to do what I am about to do today?' - Steve Jobs

    I would rather live my life as if there is a god and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is. Albert Camus

  4. #42
    BamaNation All-SEC TidenLA's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2001
    Location
    Los Angeles, CA, USA
    Posts
    1,096
    Post Thanks / Like
    My Mood
    GameFace on TideFans.com

    Re: Rate Doug Nussmeier at the halfway point

    I liked the Tight formations that CJM used a lot last year to disguise what we were doing and throwing more on first down was good as well. I give him an A- for his first year.

  5. #43
    FB | REC Moderator
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    9,558
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Rate Doug Nussmeier at the halfway point

    Quote Originally Posted by TIDE-HSV View Post
    Well, I agree, of course, but we've certainly seen enough to start making some judgments about tendencies and the like. As I said above, the ball looks spread around a bit more, but I don't see any real sea changes from CJM's philosophy, and it's one which matches Saban's expectations. I guess Bebes is happy with what he sees. I remember when he used to rail about Homer's "extended handoff" offense and call for more downfield passing...
    I think you're basically right. We obviously had some coaching turnover, but I think for the most part it has been Nussmeier acclimating himself to what we do more than us making any major changes and implementing what he would have brought with him. Of course, though, I figure that was one of his big selling points anyway, in that he could transition in quickly with few changes because we ran similar schemes.

    We'll see what happens on down the road. I've been pleased with the early returns, and at the very least he's not a dud (you hire someone like Loeffler, you know how bad it is almost immediately). That said, just not sure he can put together and call a perfect game like McElwain did against Florida in 2009 or LSU in 2011. I'm hoping the answer is yes, but that's just one of those things you have to see first. You've got to be bona fide and big-time to pull off something like that, so he'll have to prove himself in time.

    I think we're a bit more versatile in the passing game now, like you mentioned in a separate comment, but I don't know if that's much of a philosophy change, if any at all. In the four years under McElwain we didn't have QB play nearly as good as we have now, and we had a few legitimate superstars at the skill position (Julio, Ingram, and Richardson). I think the offense at the time took that into consideration and the QB became more of a game manager who tried to get the ball in the hands of the star players. Now, though, I don't think we really have that same standout player, but we've got much better QB play and a lot of talent across the board, even if no one true superstar, per se, so we operate a bit differently. I still don't think that is much of a philosophical change, though, as much as it is just making some minor changes to fit current personnel.

  6. #44
    FB | REC Moderator
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    9,558
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Rate Doug Nussmeier at the halfway point

    Re: the screen game against LSU...

    That's the easy anecdote for the armchair QB, but that typically doesn't work very well in practice.

    Opposing DC's know they have you beat outside at tackle and that you will want to use the DE aggressiveness against them, so they know the screen game is coming. They then respond by playing the corners underneath in short zone and routinely have the linebackers scrape the flats. Everything gets compressed and you end up trying to lob a screen over a DE only to have a CB or a LB come in and blow the play up for nothing.

    The better solution is to control with the running game and throw the football down the field on early downs, when DE's have to respect the run. That is how we beat LSU in NOLA last January, even though they were destroying our OL by using their quickness to shoot the gaps, and if we beat them in Baton Rouge in a couple of weeks that is how it will go down.

    Against LSU, we'll have to throw it well again on first and secnod down, and avoid the third and long situations. If we routinely find ourselves in 3rd and 6+, that pass rush is likely to eat McCarron alive. The good news is that I think they are a bit softer against the run along the interior without Brockers, so hopefully the running game will be a little more successful this time around. Still though, their quickness is an issue there, too.
    Last edited by BigEasyTider; October 22nd, 2012 at 11:54 AM.

  7. #45
    Senior Administrator TIDE-HSV's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 1999
    Location
    Huntsville, AL,USA
    Posts
    42,968
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Rate Doug Nussmeier at the halfway point

    Quote Originally Posted by BigEasyTider View Post
    I think we're a bit more versatile in the passing game now, like you mentioned in a separate comment, but I don't know if that's much of a philosophy change, if any at all. In the four years under McElwain we didn't have QB play nearly as good as we have now, and we had a few legitimate superstars at the skill position (Julio, Ingram, and Richardson). I think the offense at the time took that into consideration and the QB became more of a game manager who tried to get the ball in the hands of the star players. Now, though, I don't think we really have that same standout player, but we've got much better QB play and a lot of talent across the board, even if no one true superstar, per se, so we operate a bit differently. I still don't think that is much of a philosophical change, though, as much as it is just making some minor changes to fit current personnel.
    The last time I mentioned this little tidbit, I actually did comment that I thought it had as much to do with the QBs, even AJ his first year, he had to work with as philosophy...
    "The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for curiosity. - Ellen Parr"

    'If today were the last day of my life, would I want to do what I am about to do today?' - Steve Jobs

    I would rather live my life as if there is a god and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is. Albert Camus

  8. #46
    FB Moderator Bamabuzzard's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    Where ever there's BBQ, Crawfish & Football
    Posts
    18,175
    Post Thanks / Like
    My Mood
    Cheerful on TideFans.com

    Re: Rate Doug Nussmeier at the halfway point

    I'm curious to see how the interior of our OL stacks up against the interior of LSU's DL. Anthony "freak" Johnson is a LOAD!!!
    The existence of God isn't determined in the thoughts of man. God exist, no matter what man thinks.

    "It cost a lot of money to look this cheap."-Dolly Parton.

    "If you ever want to know how good your barbecue is start charging for it"-Myron Mixon

  9. #47
    Senior Administrator TIDE-HSV's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 1999
    Location
    Huntsville, AL,USA
    Posts
    42,968
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Rate Doug Nussmeier at the halfway point

    Quote Originally Posted by BigEasyTider View Post
    Re: the screen game against LSU...

    That's the easy anecdote for the armchair QB, but that typically doesn't work very well in practice.

    Opposing DC's know they have you beat outside at tackle and that you will want to use the DE aggressiveness against them, so they know the screen game is coming. They then respond by playing the corners underneath in short zone and routinely have the linebackers scrape the flats. Everything gets compressed and you end up trying to lob a screen over a DE only to have a CB or a LB come in and blow the play up for nothing.

    The better solution is to control with the running game and throw the football down the field on early downs, when DE's have to respect the run. That is how we beat LSU in NOLA last January, even though they were destroying our OL by using their quickness to shoot the gaps, and if we beat them in Baton Rouge in a couple of weeks that is how it will go down.

    Against LSU, we'll have to throw it well again on first and secnod down, and avoid the third and long situations. If we routinely find ourselves in 3rd and 6+, that pass rush is likely to eat McCarron alive. The good news is that I think they are a bit softer against the run along the interior without Brockers, so hopefully the running game will be a little more successful this time around. Still though, their quickness is an issue there, too.
    After the NC game, Saban made the remark that "I told them (our offensive staff) that they were going to have to throw on first down."
    "The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for curiosity. - Ellen Parr"

    'If today were the last day of my life, would I want to do what I am about to do today?' - Steve Jobs

    I would rather live my life as if there is a god and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is. Albert Camus

  10. #48
    BamaNation All-SEC ontopp's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Decatur.Alabama
    Posts
    1,011
    Post Thanks / Like
    My Mood
    Inspired on TideFans.com

    Re: Rate Doug Nussmeier at the halfway point

    I won't grade this offense but I will say this,we have moved the ball well for the most part put up more points scored more in the red zone and lost some good players in the process.
    This is the beginning of a new day.God has given me this day to use as I will. I can waste it or or use it for good.What I do today is very important because Im exchanging a day of my life for it.When tommorow comes,this day will be gone forever. Leaving something in its place I have traded for it. I want it to be a gain, not loss - good, not evil. Success, not failure in order that I Shall not forget the price I paid for it.

  11. #49
    BamaNation All-American
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Gadsden, Al.
    Posts
    3,505
    Post Thanks / Like
    My Mood
    GameFace on TideFans.com

    Re: Rate Doug Nussmeier at the halfway point

    We've had a good scheme. We've moved the ball pretty well.
    We've stopped ourselves a few times. It's been us performing to our abilities.

    We haven't faced a serious challenge yet. Several teams that were supposed to challenge us
    turned out to be pretenders.
    Several teams with top rated (at the time) quarterbacks, folded when they played us.
    Was it our Defense, or were these guys only average. Hyped but average is my guess...

    Our schedule is back loaded, with the better teams in our conference, so we will be tested soon.

    So far... CDN has been up to the challenge. I expected no less.

  12. #50
    BamaNation Hall of Fame
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Birmingham
    Posts
    7,591
    Post Thanks / Like
    My Mood
    GameFace on TideFans.com

    Re: Rate Doug Nussmeier at the halfway point

    I anticipate a little more screen passes against LSU. Like everyone said, that isn't the only answer though because it can be defended if they know its coming or at least likely to be called. We will probably roll the pocket more, chip with the TEs on pure drop backs, and try more quick timing passes over long developing crossing routes.

  13. #51
    BamaNation All-American IMALOYAL1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2000
    Location
    Birmingham AL
    Posts
    2,870
    Post Thanks / Like
    My Mood
    Fine on TideFans.com
    Thread Starter

    Re: Rate Doug Nussmeier at the halfway point

    I'm not as high on coach Nussmeier as I was a couple of weeks ago. AJ has something to do with this but overall we haven't gone to our strength, which is the run often enough imo.

  14. #52
    BamaNation All-American IMALOYAL1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2000
    Location
    Birmingham AL
    Posts
    2,870
    Post Thanks / Like
    My Mood
    Fine on TideFans.com
    Thread Starter

    Re: Rate Doug Nussmeier at the halfway point

    This is probably a bad time to revisit this thread. Emotions are gonna be running hot.


    Sorry Mods.

Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
'Gear UP! Get your University of Alabama Crimson Tide National Championship & Football Dynasty Gear!