opSo was Secretariat and other champions at the Travers. In the shudda, cudda wudda dept, in the far turn Espinoza lets Frosted go ahead and ask Pharaoh at the quarter pole and I think he would have prevailed IMHO. Keen Ice stole it, fair and square, a 16-1 shot with 1 win out of 10 starts b 4 this.