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    Re: What happened between Fran and Saban?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alasippi View Post
    He's a complete hypocrite and liar and his "Hold on to the rope" B.S. was the biggest slap in the face of Bama football players in the history of the program in my opinion. Leaving without addressing his players???? Are you kidding me???
    He's a great coach???
    He stinks as a coach and a human being. I have more respect for Bobby Lowder than I do for Dennis Franchione.
    And dude, you still don't understand how it fell apart for him???
    A man with NO character is eventually going to watch his life fall apart.
    He was given the greatest coaching opportunity he will ever have. He not only turned his back on it, he left with no regard for the kids who busted their guts for him. He's simply paying the price he should pay.
    I have no sympathy for Dennis Franchione.
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    Come on, tell us how you really feel.

    All jokes aside, I 100% agree with you. If Fran could coach worth a crap, he wouldn't be coaching at Texas Nobody University right now.

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    Re: What happened between Fran and Saban?

    I do agree with the poster about the game @Norman was one of the best called games ever IMHO. Nobody gave us a chance and man we gave the Sooners a fit that year. Also the OU game at home was one of my favorite games to ever go to. Wished we would play them again!

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    Re: What happened between Fran and Saban?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alasippi View Post
    He's a complete hypocrite and liar and his "Hold on to the rope" B.S. was the biggest slap in the face of Bama football players in the history of the program in my opinion. Leaving without addressing his players???? Are you kidding me???
    He's a great coach???
    He stinks as a coach and a human being. I have more respect for Bobby Lowder than I do for Dennis Franchione.
    And dude, you still don't understand how it fell apart for him???
    A man with NO character is eventually going to watch his life fall apart.
    He was given the greatest coaching opportunity he will ever have. He not only turned his back on it, he left with no regard for the kids who busted their guts for him. He's simply paying the price he should pay.
    I have no sympathy for Dennis Franchione.
    sip
    I said I hated how he left the program and the kids and I agree he is a terrible person, but to say he stinks as a coach is just plain wrong. He took over a 3-8 team and had them 10-3 in 2 years. Bama won the West and would have played in the SEC Championship that year if they weren't on probation. He beat a heavily favored Au team in his first year at their place. Beat a Saban led LSU team in Baton Rouge by the tune of 31-0. Had the #1 team in the country, Oklahoma on the ropes at their place and snapped a Tennessee win streak in 2002.

    Not sure how you cannot agree he had a successful little 2 year run considering the mess he inherited. And yes, with that success, I was surprised that it fell apart on him at A&M.

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    Re: What happened between Fran and Saban?

    Whatever Saban may have said to our coach or about the University or the football program that night I believe he has earned our forgiveness.

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    Re: What happened between Fran and Saban?

    Back to the original question, here's what happened...

    Saban had an interest in hiring Kenny Pope, who was on Franchione's staff. Apparently Saban didn't follow the protocol that Franchione would have liked him to have followed in checking to see if Pope had an interest in going to LSU. That's what he was upset about.

    The Fran camp's line, though, was about Saban saying something untoward about the Alabama program. I think this was a purposeful smokescreen to deflect attention from what was basically a personal thing between Saban and Franchione.
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    Re: What happened between Fran and Saban?

    Quote Originally Posted by snake plissken View Post
    I said I hated how he left the program and the kids and I agree he is a terrible person, but to say he stinks as a coach is just plain wrong. He took over a 3-8 team and had them 10-3 in 2 years. Bama won the West and would have played in the SEC Championship that year if they weren't on probation. He beat a heavily favored Au team in his first year at their place. Beat a Saban led LSU team in Baton Rouge by the tune of 31-0. Had the #1 team in the country, Oklahoma on the ropes at their place and snapped a Tennessee win streak in 2002.

    Not sure how you cannot agree he had a successful little 2 year run considering the mess he inherited. And yes, with that success, I was surprised that it fell apart on him at A&M.
    I was behind Franchione 100% when he was at Bama and I felt he was doing a great job. I really liked his "Hold onto the rope" theme and bought into it totally.
    Then...he did what he did.
    Did I feel betrayed as a fan? No, not at all, but what he did to the players was simply beyond my comprehension and I'll never get past it.

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    Re: What happened between Fran and Saban?

    Hope I never see the "Smoke Draw" again!

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    Re: What happened between Fran and Saban?

    About the OP question, consider what we know about the character of both men. The Saban we know versus the Fran we knew. Having not personally heard anything that may have been said, I got to express that I'd be incredibly surprised if Saban made any public disparaging remarks.

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    Re: What happened between Fran and Saban?

    Quote Originally Posted by snake plissken View Post
    He took over a 3-8 team and had them 10-3 in 2 years..
    Yep, and Gene Chizik lead Auburn to 14-0 in 2 years... they both still suck as coaches.

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    Re: What happened between Fran and Saban?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alasippi View Post
    I was behind Franchione 100% when he was at Bama and I felt he was doing a great job. I really liked his "Hold onto the rope" theme and bought into it totally.
    Then...he did what he did.
    Did I feel betrayed as a fan? No, not at all, but what he did to the players was simply beyond my comprehension and I'll never get past it.
    I agree with you 100%. I will never forgive him for how he treated our players and I hope he is a failure everywhere he goes.

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    Re: What happened between Fran and Saban?

    Speaking of "hold the rope" . . the one item I remember is our punter that year (2002), playing on a torn ACL the entire year--holding the rope.

    And then Fran left. And now I don't care if he dies in a fire.

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    Re: What happened between Fran and Saban?

    Did Fran invent the "smoke draw"?
    "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give me Liberty, or give me Death!" Patrick Henry

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    Re: What happened between Fran and Saban?

    Also, the short rope?
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