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    Re: Problems with our defense past two games

    Quote Originally Posted by TIDE-HSV View Post
    Recruit...
    True..I sure hope we could bring in some smaller, quicker, DE's like Clowney that are pure speed rushers..

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    Re: Problems with our defense past two games

    Quote Originally Posted by LCN View Post
    Yep . It wouldn't hurt to sign a couple of players who are 20 lbs. lighter and a little bit quicker .
    Any truth that some elite DE's have been reluctant to sign because of the misconception that DE's in the 3-4 are essentially gap fillers?

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    Re: Problems with our defense past two games

    Quote Originally Posted by theballguy View Post
    Our defense from last season would have not fared much better. What I wouldn't give to see TR back at RB. Or even Julio Jones at the WR.

    We had Barron and Kirkpatrick in the backfield. We would have not been getting some of those passes on us. Not to mention Upshaw and Hightower. Remember milliner and Mosley were out there too. So a much more experienced defense.
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    Re: Problems with our defense past two games

    We are a tired team. That's banged up and knicked up, it's affecting our performance.
    We haven't penetrated after their QB as reliably as we did earlier in the season...
    On Offense our line didn't hold blocks long enough and our OL didn't get any push
    that would assist our backs...
    Earlier in the year, we intercepted passes, not in the last two weeks...
    Earlier in the year we caused fumbles and recovered them to work a short field...
    Earlier in the year we had a stronger return game...
    Each of these observations may be attributed to a tired/injured team.

    Last observation... Our schedule is weighted toward the end of the season.
    Face it, LSU is a hard hitting quality team, TAMU is a hard hitting quality team and very fast also...
    I'm sad that we lost. I'm sad that AJ had interceptions. I'm sad that TJ fumbled.
    Face it, the first pass intercepted bounced off our receiver before it was intercepted.
    The second pass intercepted was AJ trying to force it.
    You go to the well too often and you may get wet.
    On replay I saw TJ getting hit in the back and another player strip the ball.
    (I saw a great play by TAMU)
    I would like to see a true list of our players who played with injuries... It would be a long list.

    Now we need to work some on fundamentals, but mostly we need to rest our 1s and 2s,
    and get them healed up. We need to play our remaining games like each was
    the BCS Championship.
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    Re: Problems with our defense past two games

    I think you are just going to have to simplify the defensive calls sometimes with these HU offenses too.

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    Re: Problems with our defense past two games

    Quote Originally Posted by JeffAtlanta View Post
    Any truth that some elite DE's have been reluctant to sign because of the misconception that DE's in the 3-4 are essentially gap fillers?
    Yes. That's been used against us. In reality, we're a hybrid 4-3 defense in the majority of downs, particularly when passing. There'd be plenty of room for a Clowney, but it's been used successfully...
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    Re: Problems with our defense past two games

    Quote Originally Posted by capnfrog View Post
    I think a combination of several things including the last two teams we've played could probably whip any team in the nation. We are probably banged up and tired, more so than we as fans are aware of and in need of a break. The season still isn't over, we sort of get an easy game next saturday and can play more people to give a break to those banged up. We could have won this game tonight but for a few variables like fumbles, interceptions and very good passes by A&M., I don't think we need to hang our heads and perceive this season over with. We still gotta play the barn and Jawja. RTR
    don't buy that we are tired bit. TAMU is playing 9 weeks straight w/o a bye. 3 of their last 4 games on the road. thin at depth esp. on their defensive side.

    we are banged up, but so is everybody else.

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    Re: Problems with our defense past two games

    Quote Originally Posted by TIDE-HSV View Post
    Yes. That's been used against us. In reality, we're a hybrid 4-3 defense in the majority of downs, particularly when passing. There'd be plenty of room for a Clowney, but it's been used successfully...
    Earl, honestly having an elite pass rusher would help, but its not the only remedy for the defense this year.

    the 2012 defense is good , just not great. we got spoiled the last 4 years. we also didn't have to face JFF until now.

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    Re: Problems with our defense past two games

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    We are a tired team. That's banged up and knicked up, it's affecting our performance.
    respectfully disagree. don't buy that we are tired bit. its been used out of covenienve too many times.... TAMU is playing 9 weeks straight w/o a bye. 3 of their last 4 games on the road. thin at depth esp. on their defensive side. Bama has one of the best SC coach and program in the nation.

    we are banged up, but so is everybody else.

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    Re: Problems with our defense past two games

    Saban recruits great, but even he would say that he has missed out on a few dynamic pass rushers. Our offense has not helped at all being pass happy, and getting away from ball control. We need to get taller and faster in the defensive backfield. That being said, we lost a game, its very hard to win them all. I was really hoping for a repeat.

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    Re: Problems with our defense past two games

    Quote Originally Posted by JeffAtlanta View Post
    Any truth that some elite DE's have been reluctant to sign because of the misconception that DE's in the 3-4 are essentially gap fillers?
    That's really accurate , but the alignment is being used less and less each year . Probably no more than 12-15% .
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    Re: Problems with our defense past two games

    Quote Originally Posted by CraigD View Post
    I think this has been key the past two games. This creates a tired defense. AJ was just off enough in the past two games to help contribute to early two-and-outs. That along with some curious play calling.
    Bingo. It isn't just our defense making some mistakes. Our philosophy is to control the clock with a ground oriented offense and to smother the opposing offense and get off the field quickly. We haven't done either of those things the last two games. My brother keeps saying we should run the two minute offense all the time. I try to tell him that the score would then be 60-49 instead of 29-17, which it was at the time, but he won't listen. Our defense would not look nearly as bad the last two games if the offense would not have had so many three and outs. The offensive and defensive game plans have to go together. It is the same reason that fast paced offensive teams never seem to have good defenses. It is just really tough to have opposing philosophies on offense and defense and have them both work. Our defense is great when they are on the field for 50 plays, but we fall off when we are on the field for 70 or more.

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    Re: Problems with our defense past two games

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    respectfully disagree. don't buy that we are tired bit. its been used out of covenienve too many times.... TAMU is playing 9 weeks straight w/o a bye. 3 of their last 4 games on the road. thin at depth esp. on their defensive side. Bama has one of the best SC coach and program in the nation.

    we are banged up, but so is everybody else.
    I agree. There isn't a coach in the nation who doesn't wish he had our depth. Every team is tired and banged up in November.

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