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    Re: Should aTm now be considered one of the SEC elite?

    Quote Originally Posted by theballguy View Post
    At this point in the SEC:

    1. Texas A&M
    2. Bama
    3. LSU (very very close to Bama)
    4. UGA
    5. UF
    6. South Carolina
    7. Miss St
    8. Ole Miss
    9. Vandy
    10. Arkansas
    11. UT
    12. Missouri
    13/14. UK/Auburn
    Well, in over 100 years of football they have never won the SEC.
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    Re: Should aTm now be considered one of the SEC elite?

    Quote Originally Posted by TideFan in AU View Post
    Yep, like I said we are the only ranked team they've beat. Besides us, they've beat Ole Miss, MSU, Arky, AU, Louisiana Tech, SMU, South Carolina State, and they have MIZZOU and Sam Houston St. We are the only good team they've beat, and they caught us at the perfect time. Don't make it into more than it is just yet.
    Ole Miss found a way to lose that game.

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    Re: Should aTm now be considered one of the SEC elite?

    No. No newcomer to any conference can be bestowed the title of an "elite program" in it's first year in that conference.
    Yes, Johnny Manziel is a great football player, especially for a freshman. But imo he is a bit like Cam Newton - "lightning in a bottle". aTm is very lucky to have him. But without him, the rest of the team is rather average and I doubt they would have won anywhere near the number of games they have so far. They most certainly would not have beat Bama on Saturday.
    So again, you can't bestow the title "elite" onto a program based solely on the exceptional abilities and accomplishments of a single player.
    Let's wait a few years and see how their schedule and W/L records pan out. I'm not ready to crown them king of the hill just yet.

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    Re: Should aTm now be considered one of the SEC elite?

    Quote Originally Posted by WMack4Bama View Post
    One game....one game...a 5 point win...one game.

    Liberate yourselves. Don't be prisoners of the moment.
    Mack maybe I'm missing something didn't the Aggies LOSE 2 SEC games this year?

    If so that puts CMR on the hot seat at Jawga right?

    I agree with you don't be a prisoner of the moment.

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    Re: Should aTm now be considered one of the SEC elite?

    no!!!!! no disrespect to aTm, cause they took it to us saturday. that being said, these fast paced offenses that try to survive in the SEC never do. they are always gonna be 1 hit wonders. not aTm cant or wont become elite, they just wont be able to do it with the offense they have now. they are gonna have to change some things around cause these defensive coordinators in the sec catch on quick. aTm wont the element of suprise next year. roll tide roll

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    Re: Should aTm now be considered one of the SEC elite?

    ESPN needs to slow their roll.
    If God wanted me to be humble, he would have sent me to Auburn.

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    Re: Should aTm now be considered one of the SEC elite?

    Here is a compairson from 1898 to 2011 - this is conference games and I didnt break it down . it doesnt include 2012. Has A&M ever been considered in the top 10 elite teams of all times? I would think you could name the top 10 teams off the top of your head and unless your an aggie fan they wont many many top 10 list.

    I am not bashing A&M , in the least bit. I would suggest the title of this thread is a teaser and just bubble gum for the brain.



    We have a 70% vs a 53% conference winning percentage. Would they be at 53% if they had play in the SEC for the past 40 years? Only time will tell.

    you can do your own research.

    http://football.stassen.com/records/conference.html
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    Re: Should aTm now be considered one of the SEC elite?

    Right now we're 2nd/3rd in the mix with LSU/Georgia I'd say.

    (I'd take A&M against Georgia BTW)

    Anyway, it depends a lot on if we can get our offensive tackles to return, and our defense has no depth, at all....none.

    But on the positive side, we are sitting on a recruiting volcano, the difference between us and the University of Texas is that we can coach better and develop players better than they can. So we have potential to get better, but as of right now, for next year, depends on if eligible players leave for the NFL or not...

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    Re: Should aTm now be considered one of the SEC elite?

    Quote Originally Posted by TexasAggie2002 View Post
    Right now we're 2nd/3rd in the mix with LSU/Georgia I'd say.

    (I'd take A&M against Georgia BTW)

    Anyway, it depends a lot on if we can get our offensive tackles to return, and our defense has no depth, at all....none.

    But on the positive side, we are sitting on a recruiting volcano, the difference between us and the University of Texas is that we can coach better and develop players better than they can. So we have potential to get better, but as of right now, for next year, depends on if eligible players leave for the NFL or not...
    Next year may be a rebuilding year for us. We lose two very valuable OL and whether the QB stays or jumps is a coin-flip at the moment. If he stays, we should be pretty good on offense, because arguably our two best WRs are out for the season. (White and Black, interestingly enough.) On defense, it's easy to see that this team is not the equal of last season's. If Milliner jumps, which is likely, some youngsters are going to have to step up for next year's DBs to equal this year's. Pretty much the same story on the DL and LBs...
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    Should aTm now be considered one of the SEC elite?

    Quote Originally Posted by TIDE-HSV View Post
    Next year may be a rebuilding year for us. We lose two very valuable OL and whether the QB stays or jumps is a coin-flip at the moment. If he stays, we should be pretty good on offense, because arguably our two best WRs are out for the season. (White and Black, interestingly enough.) On defense, it's easy to see that this team is not the equal of last season's. If Milliner jumps, which is likely, some youngsters are going to have to step up for next year's DBs to equal this year's. Pretty much the same story on the DL and LBs...
    That's a great point. Seems the losses after this yr will/could have a bigger impact than last yr.

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    Should aTm now be considered one of the SEC elite?

    Quote Originally Posted by TIDE-HSV View Post
    Next year may be a rebuilding year for us. We lose two very valuable OL and whether the QB stays or jumps is a coin-flip at the moment. If he stays, we should be pretty good on offense, because arguably our two best WRs are out for the season. (White and Black, interestingly enough.) On defense, it's easy to see that this team is not the equal of last season's. If Milliner jumps, which is likely, some youngsters are going to have to step up for next year's DBs to equal this year's. Pretty much the same story on the DL and LBs...
    Forgive me for using this phrase, will be young on the defensive side?
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    Re: Should aTm now be considered one of the SEC elite?

    Quote Originally Posted by TexasAggie2002 View Post
    Right now we're 2nd/3rd in the mix with LSU/Georgia I'd say.

    (I'd take A&M against Georgia BTW)

    Anyway, it depends a lot on if we can get our offensive tackles to return, and our defense has no depth, at all....none.

    But on the positive side, we are sitting on a recruiting volcano, the difference between us and the University of Texas is that we can coach better and develop players better than they can. So we have potential to get better, but as of right now, for next year, depends on if eligible players leave for the NFL or not...
    If yall couldve taken care of business against lsu like bama did we could find out.

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    Re: Should aTm now be considered one of the SEC elite?

    Not yet. We get TAMU early next year (I believe), so if they beat Bama then, I might considering revisiting TAMU being an elite. Until then, they are GA/FLA/LSU in the merely really good team level.
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