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    Quick Thought on the Imminent CFB Playoff Format

    Assume arguendo that the 2014 CFB playoff format was implemented this year, and look where we would be. 'Bama v. UGA would be a play-in game for the Final Four, and the aTm loss wouldn't matter, nor would any potential season-ending losses by Oregon or K-State. Florida would still be very much alive in it all, too.

    Don't know that a lot of people really appreciate how big of gamechanger the playoff format is going to be in CFB.

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    Re: Quick Thought on the Imminent CFB Playoff Format

    Quote Originally Posted by BigEasyTider View Post
    Assume arguendo that the 2014 CFB playoff format was implemented this year, and look where we would be. 'Bama v. UGA would be a play-in game for the Final Four, and the aTm loss wouldn't matter, nor would any potential season-ending losses by Oregon or K-State. Florida would still be very much alive in it all, too.

    Don't know that a lot of people really appreciate how big of gamechanger the playoff format is going to be in CFB.
    Proof that a playoff system in some ways cheapens the meaning of the regular season if in fact a team can afford to lose and still stay in the "playoffs."

    FWIW, despite this fact, it will be an advantage to us because it is easier to finish in the top 4 than the top 2 while playing a grueling SEC schedule.

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    Re: Quick Thought on the Imminent CFB Playoff Format

    I wasn't originally a fan of the playoff, but I have started warming up to it

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    Re: Quick Thought on the Imminent CFB Playoff Format

    Quote Originally Posted by BamaMoon View Post
    Proof that a playoff system in some ways cheapens the meaning of the regular season if in fact a team can afford to lose and still stay in the "playoffs."

    FWIW, despite this fact, it will be an advantage to us because it is easier to finish in the top 4 than the top 2 while playing a grueling SEC schedule.
    Pretty much this. Regular season won't mean near as much, but such that it is.

    For the SEC, I think the new format will be an absolute boon. We'll get at least two teams in the Final Four just about every year, and in a lot of years we will have, de facto, three appearances, with the SECCG being a play-in and the best non-divisional champion going to the Final Four over the SECCG loser.

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    Re: Quick Thought on the Imminent CFB Playoff Format

    I'm getting more than wary of the cheapens the season argument. It holds no water unless you expand it. Most years you will wind up with a mixture of unbeaten and one-loss teams. Oregon and K-State & ND cannot pack it in early - they don't who else would lose or how far they'd drop.
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    Re: Quick Thought on the Imminent CFB Playoff Format

    I remember watching the Colts v Jets a few years ago. The Colts had already clinched home field through the playoffs, so Peyton Manning was benched early in the game. I understand this was to protect him from possible injury which would hurt their chances of winning through the playoffs, but the Jets came back and won that game. Manning was visibly upset.

    I hate to think we might let a game against Auburn go like that if we already clinched a playoff spot.

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    Re: Quick Thought on the Imminent CFB Playoff Format

    Quote Originally Posted by selmaborntidefan View Post
    I'm getting more than wary of the cheapens the season argument. It holds no water unless you expand it. Most years you will wind up with a mixture of unbeaten and one-loss teams. Oregon and K-State & ND cannot pack it in early - they don't who else would lose or how far they'd drop.
    It is what is it. It will be the new system and losing a game might not hurt you as much (depending on when and who).

    As stated, I don't think this will hurt us...only help us for said reasons.

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    Re: Quick Thought on the Imminent CFB Playoff Format

    While it's true that the regular season will slightly less significant, it will also keep a loss from being quite so soul-crushing to teams and fanbases. Fair trade.

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    Re: Quick Thought on the Imminent CFB Playoff Format

    Instead of making the regular season less important, think of how much interest it creates by having more teams in the mix. If it was in play this year, there is no guarentee that ND, KSU or Oregon could lose and still make the playoffs with UA, LSU, UGA and others right behind them. Also it would drive up more interest for the teams trying to get to the finish. Playing in the SEC week after week is more difficult, IMHO, that trying to run the table as an independent or even in the some of the other conferences. How many SEC teams are in the top 10..... 6? UA UGA UF LSU A&M USCe. Hard to run the table on that bunch and any given year you would probably have to play at least 3 or 4 of them to advance.

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    Re: Quick Thought on the Imminent CFB Playoff Format

    Quote Originally Posted by mikes12 View Post
    I hate to think we might let a game against Auburn go like that if we already clinched a playoff spot.
    That will never happen in CFB even if solely because, unlike professional sports, there are no "guaranteed" spots. It's really all up to the Selection Committee, and no one will risk rolling the dice with them.

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    Re: Quick Thought on the Imminent CFB Playoff Format

    Quote Originally Posted by BigEasyTider View Post
    That will never happen in CFB even if solely because, unlike professional sports, there are no "guaranteed" spots. It's really all up to the Selection Committee, and no one will risk rolling the dice with them.
    I could see it happening. Let's change last Saturday and say we barely beat A&M. Maybe AJ and others are a little beat up. A perfect opportunity to rest our starters would be these next two games. A win against Ga in the SEC Championship Game is our "play-in" into the final four. At that point a regular season loss doesn't hurt us as bad as not having our starters healthy for the SEC CG and the playoffs.

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    Re: Quick Thought on the Imminent CFB Playoff Format

    Quote Originally Posted by BayouBama75 View Post
    Instead of making the regular season less important, think of how much interest it creates by having more teams in the mix. If it was in play this year, there is no guarentee that ND, KSU or Oregon could lose and still make the playoffs with UA, LSU, UGA and others right behind them. Also it would drive up more interest for the teams trying to get to the finish. Playing in the SEC week after week is more difficult, IMHO, that trying to run the table as an independent or even in the some of the other conferences. How many SEC teams are in the top 10..... 6? UA UGA UF LSU A&M USCe. Hard to run the table on that bunch and any given year you would probably have to play at least 3 or 4 of them to advance.

    Yeah, this is the ticket. I was worried about the whole "devaluing the regular season" thing but allowing a top-shelf team a loss means that the rest of their games aren't devalued....

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    Re: Quick Thought on the Imminent CFB Playoff Format

    The regular season will be enhanced overall if you have four teams. But if you expand it to 8, 12, or 16, it would devalue it by multiples. This prevents the injustice of a surprise team running the table against a tough schedule and not making the top two solely because those two didn't lose and began ranked based on a hunch.

    And it's not like you're going to have a six-loss team in the top four. At most you will have a 2-loss team, and a few of those prevailed under the old system. Let's say that we had won Saturday and by quirk of fate you wind up with four unbeatens. The current system most certainly would not be fair to Notre Dame, who has played the toughest schedule. Now admittedly - I chuckle at the notion they get hosed because I can think of nobody more deserving of a title game snub.

    But what if the same happened to us?

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