Page 3 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast
Results 27 to 39 of 49
  1. #27

    Re: Enjoy it while it lasts, it won't be like this with a playoff

    The new system doesn't end this. While last night wouldn't have changed much for us, it would have been just as exciting for, say, Florida State fans who would now have a real shot of making it into the four-team playoff. Whereas back in reality, they are a 10-1 team just like us, but the Oregon and KSU losses don't really matter to them since they probably won't make it into the top two. And even so, I think it is well worth it to alleviate the problem of worthy teams getting jobbed. I know we are happy because our chances of making it in with one loss are good, but that still leaves potential one-loss champions from the ACC, Big 12, and (maybe) PAC 12 on the outside looking in. And lest we forget, we too would be still not even be in the hunt if Ohio State was eligible. Instead, we would be likely watching an Ohio State-Notre Dame championship game because they both continually won close games against weaker schedules (although, to be fair, Notre Dame's schedule looked pretty darn tough at the beginning of the year).

    My point is, the four-team playoff makes sure that worthy teams don't get left in the dust. Plus, you automatically get two more exciting games between great teams to end the season. And all that changes is that the teams battling for #4 instead of #2 go crazy when upsets happen towards the end of the year. Sounds good to me!

  2. Advertisement
  3. #28
    BamaNation Hall of Fame JBama_in_PCOLA's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Andalusia, Alabama via Pensacola, Florida United States
    Posts
    18,845
    My Mood
    GameFace on TideFans.com

    Enjoy it while it lasts, it won't be like this with a playoff

    I hate the playoff system
    In college football. Last night doesn't happen. I watching watching both games when I got home from Tuscaloosa like Bama was playing again. It was a good feeling. Playoff system not so much. Maybe if you are the four and five team trying to stay/get in.
    ROLL TIDE!

  4. #29
    BamaNation First Team Tider n LA's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Lower Alabama
    Posts
    451
    My Mood
    GameFace on TideFans.com

    Re: Enjoy it while it lasts, it won't be like this with a playoff

    Quote Originally Posted by JBama_in_PCOLA View Post
    I hate the playoff system
    In college football. Last night doesn't happen. I watching watching both games when I got home from Tuscaloosa like Bama was playing again. It was a good feeling. Playoff system not so much. Maybe if you are the four and five team trying to stay/get in.
    Do you hate the SECCG? It is a playoff.

  5. #30
    BamaNation First Team jcabama's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    Cochran, GA
    Posts
    276
    My Mood
    Confused on TideFans.com

    Re: Enjoy it while it lasts, it won't be like this with a playoff

    I agree that there is much to dislike about the playoff but the flip side in my mind is that almost never will the best (at least for the last decade) conference in the country be shut out of the opportunity to play for it all. KrAzY3 is probably right that we may not get two teams in but think I like knowing at least one will make it. Excellent thread and excellent assessment KrAzY3.

  6. #31

    Re: Enjoy it while it lasts, it won't be like this with a playoff

    BCS/Bowl System is what separates College Football from the NFL and what makes it so fun to watch. Every game matters!!

  7. #32
    BamaNation First Team Tider n LA's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Lower Alabama
    Posts
    451
    My Mood
    GameFace on TideFans.com

    Re: Enjoy it while it lasts, it won't be like this with a playoff

    Quote Originally Posted by theballguy View Post
    Why in the world can't we do a playoff with these 8 teams?

    Conference champ from SEC, Pac12, Big 12, Big 10 and ACC
    3 at-large teams ranked the highest who are not conference champs?

    Each round seeded with highest ranking matched to lowest ranking.

    Fairly simple. You don't get in, you have no excuse.
    I couldn't agree with you more. That is what I always said. Seems like the best way in my opinion. Just because there will be teams in here with more than 1 loss doesn't mean they aren't the best team in the country. Maybe these teams had key injuries or bad calls that affected their record. I am tired of popularity polls.

  8. #33
    BamaNation First Team CrimSonami's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Ardmore, AL; Too close to 10RC
    Posts
    746
    My Mood
    GameFace on TideFans.com

    Re: Enjoy it while it lasts, it won't be like this with a playoff

    Quote Originally Posted by JBama_in_PCOLA View Post
    I hate the playoff system
    In college football. Last night doesn't happen. I watching watching both games when I got home from Tuscaloosa like Bama was playing again. It was a good feeling. Playoff system not so much. Maybe if you are the four and five team trying to stay/get in.
    We were #4 going into the weekend. WCU doesn't do much for our SOS. Oregon played and lost to a ranked team and it was a close OT game. With that alone we may move to #3. With KSU laying an egg to an unranked team we probably move to #2. With our rival game and pending CCG left to play against a team nipping at our heels that creates a lot of interest. We have to have a GOOD peformance against our bitter rival AND beat a top 5 team in the CCG in order to stay in the top 2/4. Either way, to me, it's exciting. For me it would have been much the same as if the playoff system were already in place.

    RTR!!!

  9. #34
    Moderator
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Location
    Shonto, Arizona, United States
    Posts
    11,044
    My Mood
    BamaVictory on TideFans.com

    Re: Enjoy it while it lasts, it won't be like this with a playoff

    I don't know why people are worrying. If you are "elite" and you deserve it, you'll be there! If you're not you won't!

  10. #35
    BamaNation All-SEC
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Colorado Springs
    Posts
    1,548
    My Mood
    GameFace on TideFans.com

    Re: Enjoy it while it lasts, it won't be like this with a playoff

    Quote Originally Posted by Tider n LA View Post
    I couldn't agree with you more. That is what I always said. Seems like the best way in my opinion. Just because there will be teams in here with more than 1 loss doesn't mean they aren't the best team in the country. Maybe these teams had key injuries or bad calls that affected their record. I am tired of popularity polls.
    And this way, if you don't win your conference and don't make it, you can only blame yourself. If you don't win and still get in, you'll know you were blessed and fortunate. Those that are on the cusp will still kvetch about it though.
    “That issue has gone under the bridge, under the next bridge, over the next dam and is gone.”
    -CNS

  11. #36
    Suspended
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Birmingham, Alabama
    Posts
    4,114

    Re: Enjoy it while it lasts, it won't be like this with a playoff

    Quote Originally Posted by Ldlane View Post
    I don't know why people are worrying. If you are "elite" and you deserve it, you'll be there! If you're not you won't!
    Really?

    No: elite (or whatever that means) has nothing to do with it. Conference champions and selection committee whims has everything to do with it. Until every team has the same conference championship that the SEC does, the system is unfair.

    And don't tell me we should "get used to it."

  12. #37
    BamaNation First Team
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Calhoun County
    Posts
    413

    Re: Enjoy it while it lasts, it won't be like this with a playoff

    Quote Originally Posted by KrAzY3 View Post
    Statistically it does and is designed to do just that. The conference champ criteria was fought over, and resisted by the SEC. Ultimately the Big 12 backed it and the SEC was forced into a playoff that included it. This is huge, and once again we can't just wish it away. It's there, it will be there, and it wouldn't be there unless it was to do something. That something is to favor conference champs over non-conference champs.

    It is not coincidence that this occurs in the aftermath of Alabama winning the BCS as a non-conference champ. It was an immediate response. Anyway, what this does is simple, it does mathematically lower the SEC's chances. Take this year for instance, Alabama has an inside track to the BCSCG game. It's not that simple, but let's call that a 50% chance of the SEC winning the championship.

    Well, you expand to four teams and Florida should also have an inside track. Whooops, not conference champ. So, Kansas St. and Oregon have an inside track. The chances go from 50%, to 25%. That won't matter some years, but it will make a difference and it's exactly why they all ganged up on the SEC and did it! I'm astounded that some people are still oblivious to this.

    Conference Champion Criteria
    The old BCS formula will not exist.

    Good points--but remember Stanford and UCLA have the inside track on the PAC 12 not Oregon.

  13. #38
    Moderator
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Location
    Shonto, Arizona, United States
    Posts
    11,044
    My Mood
    BamaVictory on TideFans.com

    Re: Enjoy it while it lasts, it won't be like this with a playoff

    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonProf View Post
    Really?

    No: elite (or whatever that means) has nothing to do with it. Conference champions and selection committee whims has everything to do with it. Until every team has the same conference championship that the SEC does, the system is unfair.

    And don't tell me we should "get used to it."
    I think a lot of the attitudes about the selections comes from Paranoia that the world is against "Alabama". I think we should just "get used to it" because that's the way it will be. It will eventually evolve into a playoff system like the NFL has right now.

  14. #39
    BamaNation All-American RammerJammer14's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    UA
    Posts
    3,269
    My Mood
    Woot on TideFans.com

    Re: Enjoy it while it lasts, it won't be like this with a playoff

    The only thing I don't like about the playoff system is its inevitable expansion. College football just does not have the depth of the NFL so all expansion does is dilute the championship. A 3-4 loss team has no business playing for the national title-that's what the regular season is for. But once they expand the playoff to 8 and/or 16 teams, it is almost guaranteed that an undeserving team will get a shot, probably some hot team that just happens to have everything clicking in the last 3 games of the season despite not having a full body of work ala the Giants, or say Texas A&M this year. I'm not looking forward to that.
    -Why's it us Sergeant? Why us?
    -Because we're here lad. Nobody else. Just us.

    -"I wish the ring had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened."
    -"So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us."

Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
'Gear UP! Get your University of Alabama Crimson Tide National Championship & Football Dynasty Gear!