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    Stanford proves once again why Bama's defense/offense doesn't need an overhaul.

    Stanford could easily be mistaken for an SEC team from a scheme standpoint. Their current HC and previous HC both implement pro style systems on both offense and defense (like we do).

    After the aTm game there seemed to be a epic meltdown on the board about these high tempo offenses could only be stopped by going lighter across the board on defense and changing our offense to the fling it around high paced spread option.

    Then came last night. Stanford ran for over 200 yards against Oregon. Ran a four man front for much of the game. They ran their offense, even turned the ball over a few times along the way, and held the vaunted, breath taking Oregon offense to 14 points.

    The ONLY adjustment I see Saban needs to make on defense is to simplify his defense a bit so it doesn't require special packages for every other play. Keep the same philosophy, same aggressiveness, but simplify it a bit. Other than that it should be business as usual.

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    Re: Stanford proves once again why Bama's defense/offense doesn't need an overhaul.

    If you noticed though, Stanford didn't make "wholesale" substitutions with every package like we do. I think that is where the "tweaking" needs to be because it takes the fresh guys a bit of time to get up to game speed after they enter.

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    Re: Stanford proves once again why Bama's defense/offense doesn't need an overhaul.

    I didn't see anyone wanting to change our style of play due to the A&M game. I think we run the best offensive and defensive systems in college football. We are very similar to a number of pro teams on O and D.

    If anything, I've seen people, and rightfully so, saying we should have used our #1 ranked OL and ran the ball down A&M's throats more, particularly inside the 7 on first down.

    I think the A&M game was an example of Alabama not showing up ready to play, and A&M playing their best game of the year. It is as simple as that. If we showed up ready to play, I think we pound A&M by more than 3 TDs.

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    Re: Stanford proves once again why Bama's defense/offense doesn't need an overhaul.

    The only "adjustment" needed is for the offense to enable the D to stay off the field.
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    Stanford proves once again why Bama's defense/offense doesn't need an overhaul.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bamabuzzard View Post
    Stanford could easily be mistaken for an SEC team from a scheme standpoint. Their current HC and previous HC both implement pro style systems on both offense and defense (like we do).

    After the aTm game there seemed to be a epic meltdown on the board about these high tempo offenses could only be stopped by going lighter across the board on defense and changing our offense to the fling it around high paced spread option.

    Then came last night. Stanford ran for over 200 yards against Oregon. Ran a four man front for much of the game. They ran their offense, even turned the ball over a few times along the way, and held the vaunted, breath taking Oregon offense to 14 points.

    The ONLY adjustment I see Saban needs to make on defense is to simplify his defense a bit so it doesn't require special packages for every other play. Keep the same philosophy, same aggressiveness, but simplify it a bit. Other than that it should be business as usual.

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    Key words...they "ran." We didn't during the a&m game when it really mattered, and we lost. The people who doubted our system in favor of that obnoxious video game style bs wouldn't be having their doubts if we had just done what made us great to begin with. Anyway...I'm glad Oregon got smacked in the mouth by Stanford because I hate their style of football.

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    Re: Stanford proves once again why Bama's defense/offense doesn't need an overhaul.

    Quote Originally Posted by cuda.1973 View Post
    The only "adjustment" needed is for the offense to enable the D to stay off the field.
    If I'm reading you correctly, you're saying what I was thinking.
    Our offense needs to stop these infuriating 3-and-outs.

    Do that, "and the crowd are going wild!"

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    Re: Stanford proves once again why Bama's defense/offense doesn't need an overhaul.

    Why we didn't run it in, I think it's because we couldn't run when we needed like the yard and half we needed for a first down, before we settled for a field goal.

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    Re: Stanford proves once again why Bama's defense/offense doesn't need an overhaul.

    Yeah, Stanford stayed committed to the run deep into the 4th quarter, which is what we failed to do last week. However, after watching both games, I will say that Texas A&M is a much more physical and dynamic team than Oregon. I believe in a head-to-head matchup that Texas A&M would beat Oregon.

    While I think the scheme is worthy, I think Oregon has taken it too far to the extreme. That could be seen last night. They are too lean on the LOS of scrimmage. Stanford simply abused them at the point of attack. Texas A&M is much more physical on the LOS.

    Last night was a textbook example of how to beat teams of this ilk, run the ball about 60-65% of the time while on defense play contain with the DEs on the outside and collapse the interior line with heavy pressure and blitzes. You also need to limit defensive substitutions and win first down.

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    Stanford proves once again why Bama's defense/offense doesn't need an overhaul.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamilton View Post
    Key words...they "ran." We didn't during the a&m game when it really mattered, and we lost. The people who doubted our system in favor of that obnoxious video game style bs wouldn't be having their doubts if we had just done what made us great to begin with. Anyway...I'm glad Oregon got smacked in the mouth by Stanford because I hate their style of football.
    It's not about Bama running or passing. It's about execution. Execute the play call and no one is going to crow about what should have been done, what would have happened, and what could have been.

    I think Bama and Stanford differ in DL size. Their DL looked smaller and quicker than Bama's. Add their familiarity with Oregon's offense and you get a D knowing what to do.


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    Re: Stanford proves once again why Bama's defense/offense doesn't need an overhaul.

    Saban himself said that he thought looking for slightly smaller more versatile "every down" type defenders. He noted that a lot of what we do is built off personnel substitutions but the tempo no-huddle nullifies what we do to a degree. For example, our third-down type front seven guys getting stuck on the field in defensive situations they haven't really been coached up to execute or simply can't physically execute. Saban seems to agree that we need to find more guys who can play every down in the front seven so we don't have to play so much by personnel which is really the biggest factor of confusion against the no-huddle.

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    Re: Stanford proves once again why Bama's defense/offense doesn't need an overhaul.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bamabuzzard View Post
    The ONLY adjustment I see Saban needs to make on defense is to simplify his defense a bit so it doesn't require special packages for every other play. Keep the same philosophy, same aggressiveness, but simplify it a bit. Other than that it should be business as usual.
    BINGO!!! Nick Saban and Kirby Smart get payed a lot of money to make these adjustments and I have no doubt they will!!! RTR!!!

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    Re: Stanford proves once again why Bama's defense/offense doesn't need an overhaul.

    It doesn't hurt that Stanford's defensive linemen have the ability to pressure the QB without the aid of a blitz being called.
    This allows the cover guys to stay in position and to offer additional run support.
    That's one area where we lack just a bit.
    That being said I'll follow up with this. Of all the teams I've seen outside the SEC, Stanford is by far the most physical team.
    Oregon is outstanding but Stanford simply wore them down and out. I'm SO glad they did.
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    Re: Stanford proves once again why Bama's defense/offense doesn't need an overhaul.

    I agree with the principle of the discussion - great defense and a balanced offense produce champions. But even Saban has admitted that he may need to look at bringing in a slightly different player to deal with an offense like that fielded by aTm & Oregon. The specialists that Saban's program produces sometimes create match-up problems when you can't substitute situationally.

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