"If it feels good, then you're not doing it right" - Coach Scott Cochran
"Sharing a conference with Nick Saban is like sharing a steak with a lion. Only one of you wins that battle. And it's not you." - Gregg Doyel
pyro, with all due respect to your true thoughts, this is college football and the NCAA laws governing participation are there for a reason, right or wrong.
"My momma always said you got to put the past behind you before you can move on." Forrest Gump
"The past is never dead. It's not even past." William Faulkner
Sure, I hate it for the OSU fans. I hate it for the PSU fans, too. Still, law without enforcement is vain. Enforcement without repercussions is also vain. We all suffered through repercussions for a signature on a napkin that was none of ours, and unfortunately the other fans sometimes get to take a dose of the same bitter medicine. Yes, it's rough. Man up, Buckeyes.
“Louisiana is a fresh-air mental asylum.”
― James Lee Burke, Pegasus Descending
Maybe the petition should have said, "let tOSU play in a bowl game this year, and we promise to take the punishment next year."
Ohio State could have sat those players but they wanted to win against an SEC team so badly they decided to pretty much give up the next season. Then they did well enough to get a Gator Bowl bid they could have refused. Ohio State is the kid who the parents gave the option of restriction, no TV, or a spanking, made their choice - and has now gone outside the family to say they shouldn't get punished because what they did was not a big deal.
If it wasn't a big deal then why didn't they just sit out the players in the Sugar Bowl?
Let me point something out - the mentality at Ohio State right now is no different than the one that brought down Penn State. Obviously I'm not comparing tattoos to rape but the entire football first mentality - to an extreme - will do them in as well.
Btw - Terry Bowden tried a more restrained version of the same argument when Auburn won 19 in a row in the mid-90s. But he at least was reflective, admitting that maybe cheating was the reason the Barn was unbeaten.
I'll always look back as I walk away
This memory will last for eternity
And all of our tears will be lost in the rain
Til I find my way back to your arms again
But until that day you know you are
The queen of my heart
Ohio State is Auburn North :-). Was it 1993 that the same thing happened to Auburn :-). I know 2004 was different though :-) LOL
The overtime win at home against Purdue, the escape against UAB at home, the seven point win over a 3-9 Cal team at home, and the 3 point win at Indiana are real signs of a championship caliber team.
"Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give me Liberty, or give me Death!" Patrick Henry
Agree, it would be different if they could play a good bowl game against a decent team to prove themselves. I just don't see how the AP could award them anything, the Big 10 has been noted as a weak conference this year. They need a quality win over a team outside of there.
The latter suggestion would destroy college football. Many small schools think the situation you descibed already exists to some extent. They're right and wrong, but that's another debate. However, to allow the high school kids and their families to force school to engage in legal bidding wars for the best players out there would be the end of college football. Think Alabama can spend? If what you described is allowed, we could become small potatoes in a hurry. For example, suppose Mark Cuban wanted to spend a billion or so bucks he has sitting around. Under your scenario, he could call the barn, offer them virtually unlimited spending money to buy the players of which he approved, and essentially buy their football program . Add in a few more insanely rich people, and suddenly we have really young phenoms playing for a dozen or so teams in an pseudo-NFL league. All the other schools might as well forget playing those teams. A Saudi billionaire wants to buy a team for fun or Nike wants to really advertise their product? Hey, just pick a program and open the spigot. Too bad for everyone else - you won't even have a chance to get average players. Have the new billionaire owner toss some petty cash like $100,000 and a paid college education to every kid with no chance at the NFL in exchange for not playing at all, there'll be zero major college quality players left to get.