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    Re: Ohio State faithful petition president

    Quote Originally Posted by JPT4Bama View Post
    Dude, you're crazy. Way crazy.
    With a name like pyro, it's his nature to set the board ablaze.

    I agree that the NCAA overreaches, but "without rules" is probably not a good idea.
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    Re: Ohio State faithful petition president

    pyro, with all due respect to your true thoughts, this is college football and the NCAA laws governing participation are there for a reason, right or wrong.
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    Re: Ohio State faithful petition president

    Quote Originally Posted by GrayTide View Post
    pyro, with all due respect to your true thoughts, this is college football and the NCAA laws governing participation are there for a reason, right or wrong.
    And those laws are set up with participation from the Universities themselves........your players got their scholarship and didn't have to wait in line at the bookstore, just play football and shut up! Education paid for and be thankful you're not pumping gas somewhere!
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    Re: Ohio State faithful petition president

    Sure, I hate it for the OSU fans. I hate it for the PSU fans, too. Still, law without enforcement is vain. Enforcement without repercussions is also vain. We all suffered through repercussions for a signature on a napkin that was none of ours, and unfortunately the other fans sometimes get to take a dose of the same bitter medicine. Yes, it's rough. Man up, Buckeyes.
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    in The Southern Register, Fall 2009

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    Re: Ohio State faithful petition president

    Maybe the petition should have said, "let tOSU play in a bowl game this year, and we promise to take the punishment next year."

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    Re: Ohio State faithful petition president

    Ohio State could have sat those players but they wanted to win against an SEC team so badly they decided to pretty much give up the next season. Then they did well enough to get a Gator Bowl bid they could have refused. Ohio State is the kid who the parents gave the option of restriction, no TV, or a spanking, made their choice - and has now gone outside the family to say they shouldn't get punished because what they did was not a big deal.

    If it wasn't a big deal then why didn't they just sit out the players in the Sugar Bowl?

    Let me point something out - the mentality at Ohio State right now is no different than the one that brought down Penn State. Obviously I'm not comparing tattoos to rape but the entire football first mentality - to an extreme - will do them in as well.

    Btw - Terry Bowden tried a more restrained version of the same argument when Auburn won 19 in a row in the mid-90s. But he at least was reflective, admitting that maybe cheating was the reason the Barn was unbeaten.
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    Re: Ohio State faithful petition president

    Ohio State is Auburn North :-). Was it 1993 that the same thing happened to Auburn :-). I know 2004 was different though :-) LOL

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    Re: Ohio State faithful petition president

    The overtime win at home against Purdue, the escape against UAB at home, the seven point win over a 3-9 Cal team at home, and the 3 point win at Indiana are real signs of a championship caliber team.

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    Ohio State faithful petition president

    Quote Originally Posted by J4Bama View Post
    Typical. It's different until it's your team.
    Boom! You're right.

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    Re: Ohio State faithful petition president

    Quote Originally Posted by Atl Joe View Post
    OK, they play in the BIG? - Strike 1.
    They cheated - Strike 2.
    Urban Meyer is their coach - Strike 3.

    Heck, I 'll give them a 4th strike.... They are OSU.

    They should be thankful for the bowl ban. It prevents them from getting smoked again by another SEC school.
    No! According to them they are TOSU "The Ohio State University". Where did they come up with that? Are we TUA "The University of Alabama"?
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    Re: Ohio State faithful petition president

    Quote Originally Posted by BAMA1979 View Post
    The overtime win at home against Purdue, the escape against UAB at home, the seven point win over a 3-9 Cal team at home, and the 3 point win at Indiana are real signs of a championship caliber team.

    Agree, it would be different if they could play a good bowl game against a decent team to prove themselves. I just don't see how the AP could award them anything, the Big 10 has been noted as a weak conference this year. They need a quality win over a team outside of there.
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    Re: Ohio State faithful petition president

    Quote Originally Posted by pyro View Post
    Okay guys, I know a lot of you are going to look at this and laugh "funny or not" but getting on with it. I actually agree with the statement. For one I don't get the big deal about selling some stuff or the tats for that matter either.

    IF NFL PLAYERS CAN DO IT NCAA PLAYERS SHOULD BE ALOUD TO

    To be even more "funny" I think most if not all NCAA sactions are very questionable including the ones that were placed on Bama a decade or so ago. I honestly think Coaches should be able to recruit how they want to with out rules. I think palyers should be able to do what the want with boosters such as taking cash, fishing trips, letting the coach give your dad $100,000 and then your dad sayss he knows nothing about it.

    Like I said I know a lot of people who read this are going to be like "your crazy" but its my true thought.
    Taking your post at face value, a couple of things pop out. First of all, there a lot of people who agree with you about compensation for college players. I don't think that idea is crazy, but allowing it on the same scale as NFL invites a situation where many players become more powerful than their team and coach. This is a very complex area that can go in many different directions, most of them bad for the game we see on the field.

    The latter suggestion would destroy college football. Many small schools think the situation you descibed already exists to some extent. They're right and wrong, but that's another debate. However, to allow the high school kids and their families to force school to engage in legal bidding wars for the best players out there would be the end of college football. Think Alabama can spend? If what you described is allowed, we could become small potatoes in a hurry. For example, suppose Mark Cuban wanted to spend a billion or so bucks he has sitting around. Under your scenario, he could call the barn, offer them virtually unlimited spending money to buy the players of which he approved, and essentially buy their football program . Add in a few more insanely rich people, and suddenly we have really young phenoms playing for a dozen or so teams in an pseudo-NFL league. All the other schools might as well forget playing those teams. A Saudi billionaire wants to buy a team for fun or Nike wants to really advertise their product? Hey, just pick a program and open the spigot. Too bad for everyone else - you won't even have a chance to get average players. Have the new billionaire owner toss some petty cash like $100,000 and a paid college education to every kid with no chance at the NFL in exchange for not playing at all, there'll be zero major college quality players left to get.

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    Re: Ohio State faithful petition president

    Quote Originally Posted by TideMom2Boys View Post
    Agree, it would be different if they could play a good bowl game against a decent team to prove themselves. I just don't see how the AP could award them anything, the Big 10 has been noted as a weak conference this year. They need a quality win over a team outside of there.
    I agree. Maybe Michigan will knock them off and put an end to the small possiblilty of that happening.

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