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Prior to USCw's Bush case, however, schools, administrators, coaches and athletes generally agreed to talk. The USCw / Bush case dragged out forever because everybody lawyered up and clammed up. Some folks other than the main players finally started talking, and after several years, that landed USCw on a mother of a probation.
In the Cam case, Auburn took good notes from USCw and everybody lawyered up. But this time nobody talked. Compounding the NCAA's inability to compel information was the fact that, inexplicably, and so long as the son didn't know, a father taking bids for his son's services wasn't against their rules at the time. Now, we all believe to the bottom of our being that there's no way Cam didn't know. But without subpoena power, and with nobody talking, the case fell apart.
So the NCAA is saying here, "OK, if you're going to take advantage of our lack of subpoena power, we're going to respond by dropping all pretense of due process. If you won't talk, we'll assume you're guilty of the worst of our suspicions. Why? Because we can, for the exact reasons we don't have subpoena power -- we're not part of the judicial system. So while we don't have the judicial system's powers, we also don't have to follow its rules. Wanna talk now?"
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In the Auburn HBO 4, the NCAA has no testimony. They have a 3rd party interview with a television network where there is no downside to refusing to cooperate with the NCAA. When asked by the NCAA to name names and confirm, they have simply refused, with no downside risk. Shapiro has named names.
I'm not so certain future *U parties will be able to continue to use that same risk reward analysis.
In true terms, Shapiro is a "representative of the schools athletics interests". He gave benefits to student athletes. We have talked for a couple of years about 7-on-7 teams, runners and street agents. Shapiro fits in with that group. Please note the time frame of Shapiro's allegations; the story broke in August, 2011. At that time the NCAA was deep in conversations with Will Lyles with regard to Oregon. And from this story, the NCAA was already in south Florida looking into 7-on-7 camps and recruiting practices of at least 3 SEC schools and several ACC schools:
"The NCAA has been active in South Florida over the past several months, sending investigators to various 7-on-7 camps and making connections with parents and coaches. One source added that the secondary focus of the look was on the recruiting methods of at least three SEC schools and a number of ACC schools in the area."
We didn't keep up with it because we were all too preoccupied with Cam, but Oregon is about to undergo summary disposition in their NCAA case, meaning that there is agreement on several points and that they are cooperating with the NCAA (That is why you are hearing talk of Chip Kelley to the NFL). Their issues center on benefits paid by the school to recruiting services who influenced kids in the recruiting process, and benefits to kids (recruiting trips) paid for by boosters and recruiting services. They have agreement because the recruiting services (Will Lyles---again, first person involvement) gave the information to the NCAA. That starts a landslide of questions.
Why would he do that? Don't believe for a minute it is just out of the goodness of his heart.
And, who is next?
Not confirmed but Tedford's firing at Cal fits the mold. And Tedford was at Oregon before he went to Cal. The guy who was the mentor for Kenan Allen is currently the girls softball coach at a small school about 10 miles north of Berkley, CA.
All the national pundits have warned us for several months---this is just the tip of the iceberg.