Wondering how everyone feels about Geno Smith's progress...seems like he might be able to step into that 3rd DB role (perhaps ahead of Fulton) which might remove some of the strain on our safeties and then open up some room for more creative blitzes and coverage.
Question: Can Geno Be Our Third DB?
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Coach Saban has stated that something has clicked in the last 2 or 3 weeks and he seems to "get it" now. Having him come in and play the Star position on Dime defense helps because of his cover skills vs. that of Ha-Ha or Vinny. It's a good thing.
3rd DB, no. 5th, 6th, or 7th, yes. 
Sunseri has been a liability in coverage all year and frankly I've been disappointed with his tackling. On the positive however he is a playmaker and seems to find himself around the ball a lot. Apparently I've been more pleased with Fulton's development than the coaches as I would rather have seen Fulton on the boundry with Menzie moved inside to star with Vinny playing only in the Money package over what's been occurring of late.
As for Geno, if the light is finally on, put him at star, the sooner the better and find roles for Vinny where his assets are best used, ie aggressive blitzes etc.
Sunseri has been a liability in coverage all year and frankly I've been disappointed with his tackling. On the positive however he is a playmaker and seems to find himself around the ball a lot. Apparently I've been more pleased with Fulton's development than the coaches as I would rather have seen Fulton on the boundry with Menzie moved inside to star with Vinny playing only in the Money package over what's been occurring of late.
As for Geno, if the light is finally on, put him at star, the sooner the better and find roles for Vinny where his assets are best used, ie aggressive blitzes etc.
fulton's been injured3rd DB, no. 5th, 6th, or 7th, yes.
Sunseri has been a liability in coverage all year and frankly I've been disappointed with his tackling. On the positive however he is a playmaker and seems to find himself around the ball a lot. Apparently I've been more pleased with Fulton's development than the coaches as I would rather have seen Fulton on the boundry with Menzie moved inside to star with Vinny playing only in the Money package over what's been occurring of late.
As for Geno, if the light is finally on, put him at star, the sooner the better and find roles for Vinny where his assets are best used, ie aggressive blitzes etc.
I think you meant Belue. Menzie graduated last year.3rd DB, no. 5th, 6th, or 7th, yes.
Sunseri has been a liability in coverage all year and frankly I've been disappointed with his tackling. On the positive however he is a playmaker and seems to find himself around the ball a lot. Apparently I've been more pleased with Fulton's development than the coaches as I would rather have seen Fulton on the boundry with Menzie moved inside to star with Vinny playing only in the Money package over what's been occurring of late.
As for Geno, if the light is finally on, put him at star, the sooner the better and find roles for Vinny where his assets are best used, ie aggressive blitzes etc.
Can't say I'd be comfortable if that were the case. I think he'll be a fine player in time, but I'd much rather see Fulton get the call. I just have a feeling that if we go to ATL with him on the field, UGA will find a way to get him matched up with Malcolm Mitchell and that will end very badly for us.
In the past few years, saban has always put one of the top two corners into the slot, but it's seems like 28 and 13 are always one the outside this year with 3 in the slot. I remember arenas, jackson, menzie, all playing the slot with the 3rd corner going outside.
I would think just about any db on the team would be better at covering the slot than 3. He's a good ball player, but that's definitely not his strength.
I would think just about any db on the team would be better at covering the slot than 3. He's a good ball player, but that's definitely not his strength.
So I guess my broader question is how can we get Vinnie out of the slot? Because UGA will still find a way to get Mitchell on him and that won't go well either.
Nick Saban's defense has never been at it's best without three outstanding corners. We entered the season not having that and it concerned me. Assuming Milliner goes pro (he's probably a 1st rounder at this point) we may face the same issue next season. An awful lots depends on the development of Smith and Fulton. If they and Belue were as a group collectively better next season it would go a long way. Even with that we would need depth so players like Bradley Selve need to get better and if there is a high schooler who can play immediately we need to get him.
I think our safeties have looked bad at times because they have been asked to provide more coverage than normal. Sunsuri in particular is more of a run support and blitzer kind of safety.
I think our safeties have looked bad at times because they have been asked to provide more coverage than normal. Sunsuri in particular is more of a run support and blitzer kind of safety.
We've been playing 3 safeties because the best 5 have been the 3 safety/2 corner look. It is really telling that Saban couldn't trust any of the options at corner to be on the field most of the season. Perhaps he was hoping for Geno Smith to figure it out sooner and get him into the defense earlier and Sunseri at star was just an early season stop-gap. It didn't quite materialize in time but even if Geno does end up playing well enough in practice to get time on the field, we're likely going to have to take the good with the bad that we usually see early in the season with new starters.
If we end up winning an SEC championship, this will probably be one of Saban and staff's better coaching jobs on defense because we're clearly deficient in some areas.
If we end up winning an SEC championship, this will probably be one of Saban and staff's better coaching jobs on defense because we're clearly deficient in some areas.
I didn't think it big at the time, but that second juco corner (don't remember his name) leaving the team was in fact a big deal. I hope Geno can step up his game, but if I were UGA I would give him the Marquise Johnson treatment until he proved he could stop it.
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Travell Dixon, I believe -
Apparently had been rated higher coming out of JUCO than Belue, but that didn't translate into his performance after he joined the Tide...
I am wondering if Vinnie will outgrow the defensive backfield and possible move to a small linebacker or niche position.
Agree that Fulton is the best and most experienced right now. We are D-back U, so I am assuming that we have young players on then bench with twice the talent as many starters in FBS, Injuries and 3 year players makes it difficult to keep things like clockwork.
Auburn will be throwing ducks, but Georgia will be a challenge.
Agree that Fulton is the best and most experienced right now. We are D-back U, so I am assuming that we have young players on then bench with twice the talent as many starters in FBS, Injuries and 3 year players makes it difficult to keep things like clockwork.
Auburn will be throwing ducks, but Georgia will be a challenge.
Given that he sank like a stone on the depth chart, it doesn't appear Mr. Dixon would have been any more than a special teams player. He apparently didn't handle disappointment any better than his coverage assignments.
Back to the thread .... If anyone knows if Geno is ready it's the CEO. He'll clue the rest of us in Saturday afternoon. Best people play.
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if need be i think he can. But only if Fulton is too hurt to play. That is the only way he is our 3rd corner. our safeties are just not fluid enough to cover WR's when we go against 4 and 5 wide sets. our safeties are built to be physical
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