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    Re: "Muschamp would take Bama's spot in SEC title game"

    Quote Originally Posted by JeffAtlanta View Post
    2011 UGA already had 2 losses coming into the SECCG, so they weren't hurt by playing and losing in the SECCG.

    2011 Alabama would have been in a better bowl than UGA even if UGA hadn't played in the SECCG.
    That was not what Saban suggested - read his statement again.

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    Re: "Muschamp would take Bama's spot in SEC title game"

    Quote Originally Posted by kayakerjess View Post
    I think the discussion is an extension of the argument about whether or not a loss in the conference championship game should "count" when deciding the bowl games and/or BCS standings.

    Last year, UCLA was 6-6 and played in the PAC12 championship game because USC was banned. UCLA lost, leaving them at 6-7 and forcing them to miss the bowl season, even though they would have gone to a bowl at 6-6 had USC not been on probation.

    Georgia Tech is in the same situation this year playing in the ACC championship game because both UNC and Miami are not eligible.

    This is a similar situation where either UGA or Bama will get penalized for playing in the SECCG rather than being rewarded for making it there in the first place.
    If this is what Saban meant, few would argue.

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    Re: "Muschamp would take Bama's spot in SEC title game"

    Quote Originally Posted by TideEngineer08 View Post
    The rest of the college football world is eating this up but I think they missed the point. This isn't about last year and winning your division to get into the BCS. This is about the fact that only 2 teams can get into the BCS from one conference.

    I agree, this is where I think he is coming from. This is an unusual year where numerous teams from the top 10 will be left out. Then you have a team like Kent State that will go to a BCS bowl. I don't think he feels Florida shouldn't be in the Sugar Bowl....but that the loser of the SECCG should not have to go to Atlanta for a bowl game.
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    Re: "Muschamp would take Bama's spot in SEC title game"

    The SECCG is about revenue. Due to the pursuit of additional revenue, Alabama or Georgia will play themselves out of a BCS bowl, while Florida sits at home.

    This is problematic this year due to UA,UGA, and UF all being 1-loss teams and running #2-4 in the BCS. I see no hypocrisy from Saban or dissrepect toward Florida either. It is what it is.
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    Re: "Muschamp would take Bama's spot in SEC title game"

    Quote Originally Posted by B1GTide View Post
    That was not what Saban suggested - read his statement again.
    Could you elaborate on what you think Saban is suggesting?

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    Re: "Muschamp would take Bama's spot in SEC title game"

    This is a master stroke from the psychology king. Now nobody is talking about invincible Alabama but focusing instead on the coach. Somewhere out there, Coach Bryant is smiling his approval.
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    Re: "Muschamp would take Bama's spot in SEC title game"

    I guess I'm just reading this differently, but I think Coach Saban is saying the loser of SECCG should automatically go to the Sugar Bowl if the winner goes to the BCSCG. I have to agree with him. If Bama wins on Saturday that should send UGA to New Orleans and Bama should go if UGA wins.
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    Re: "Muschamp would take Bama's spot in SEC title game"

    Quote Originally Posted by JeffAtlanta View Post
    Could you elaborate on what you think Saban is suggesting?
    His quote: "It's not really a great scenario," Saban said. "You play your way into the (SEC) championship game, which means you're the best team in your division. ... It doesn't seem quite right, but it is what it is. I don't really know what me commenting about it is going to do to change it. But I don't feel good about it."

    Saban says "You play your way into the (SEC) championship game, which means you're the best team in your division" when discussing his concerns. As this thread demonstrates, you can read all sorts of things into that quote, but taken at face value he is suggesting that the teams that win their respective divisions in the SEC should not lose out to a team that did not. I do like kayaker's interpretation, though. It makes more sense given what happened last year.

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    Re: "Muschamp would take Bama's spot in SEC title game"

    Georgia LY wouldn't have been playing in the BCSCG if they had won -- they would have gone to the Sugar Bowl if they won.....

    What Coach is saying is that w/o a Championship Game -- one would have gone to the BCSCG the other would have gone to the Sugar Bowl.....

    Playing the extra game shouldn't punish you if you lose.....by sending you to a lesser bowl

    It's not comparable to last year......because the team left out of the SECCG isn't going to be in the Top 2 of the BCS -- they are #4......
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    Re: "Muschamp would take Bama's spot in SEC title game"

    Quote Originally Posted by B1GTide View Post
    His quote: "It's not really a great scenario," Saban said. "You play your way into the (SEC) championship game, which means you're the best team in your division. ... It doesn't seem quite right, but it is what it is. I don't really know what me commenting about it is going to do to change it. But I don't feel good about it."

    Saban says "You play your way into the (SEC) championship game, which means you're the best team in your division" when discussing his concerns. As this thread demonstrates, you can read all sorts of things into that quote, but taken at face value he is suggesting that the teams that win their respective divisions in the SEC should not lose out to a team that did not. I do like kayaker's interpretation, though. It makes more sense given what happened last year.
    We weren't the best team in the division last year -- but we were the 2nd best team in the country - per the BCS.....

    so it's NOT comparable......Probation State Guy
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    Re: "Muschamp would take Bama's spot in SEC title game"

    I love how people can't get the simple fact that Saban is complaining about the BCS only allowing two SEC teams in. That is ridiculous and he has a right to complain.

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    Re: "Muschamp would take Bama's spot in SEC title game"

    I don't get that if you play hard all year and work your way into the TOP 10 then you shouldn't be penalized for being in the wrong slot behind someone else or that cupcake U won their conference but happens to be #22 in the the Top 25 so they get rewarded above said team or teams in the top 10. I know, I know, "it's all about money and bowl matchups". I just think #3 vs #4 and #5vs#6 or even #5 vs #9 and #6 vs #8 would be a bigger pull and more fun to watch then some of the lame matchups they come up with.

    Rant Off.... and btw, I think Saban is entitled to his opinion (which in my opinion in this case is not whining.)

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    Re: "Muschamp would take Bama's spot in SEC title game"

    Quote Originally Posted by B1GTide View Post
    His quote: "It's not really a great scenario," Saban said. "You play your way into the (SEC) championship game, which means you're the best team in your division. ... It doesn't seem quite right, but it is what it is. I don't really know what me commenting about it is going to do to change it. But I don't feel good about it."

    Saban says "You play your way into the (SEC) championship game, which means you're the best team in your division" when discussing his concerns. As this thread demonstrates, you can read all sorts of things into that quote, but taken at face value he is suggesting that the teams that win their respective divisions in the SEC should not lose out to a team that did not. I do like kayaker's interpretation, though. It makes more sense given what happened last year.
    So how does that make him a hypocrite? We didn't displace the team that won our division last year, we played them in the BCSCG.
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