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    Re: Chris Black to make debut against Georgia

    Quote Originally Posted by TIDE-HSV View Post
    First, I've never said anything about his starting. Second, resentment from other players about a guy who's been hurt all year and is finally getting his chance is just a non-starter. I'm not even sure where that remark's coming from, unless you're just desperate to make a point. The other players' tweets have shown that they're very excited for him, which is the way Saban builds a "team first" attitude. Finally, Saban has a long history of playing freshmen when they're ready, the family's on board and there is no reason to preserve the illusion of a fifth year in this case. BTW, I'm going on the facts - not on a "gut feeling..."
    My gut feeling was based on how Saban normally coaches. It was an observation,nothing more, and as I tried to express about fifteen million times it wasn't intended to be argumentative or negative at all about Chris Black.

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    Re: Chris Black to make debut against Georgia

    Quote Originally Posted by TIDE-HSV View Post
    No, he just asked a freshman who'd never fielded a punt in a college game to field punts in a NCG. Think about it...
    Earle....he was on the sideline all year though. It's different. Arrgghhhh lol...I'm not being evil!! lol
    I hope the kid, if he plays, wins the MVP!!

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    Re: Chris Black to make debut against Georgia

    Synopsis!!

    I'm not saying he should play. I'm not saying he shouldn't play.

    I don't care if he plays or not.

    If he does I hope he has a great game.

    My every post was simply trying to say that I would be surprised if Saban played him.

    That's all, that's it, and if I'm wrong so be it and good If I'm right, who cares, as long as we win

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    Re: Chris Black to make debut against Georgia

    Sip, you would make a good politician!

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    Re: Chris Black to make debut against Georgia

    The thing is that we've been rotating 6-deep at WR before Bell went down: Norwood, Cooper, Bell, Ch. Jones, Shinn, and Cy. Jones. The last two didn't get a lot of snaps, but they have occasionally seen the field to spell guys even before it was "blowout conditions." Black was definitely a better talent than either Shinn or Cy. Jones heading into the season but the injury kept him off the field. He would have probably already have been in the rotation if they weren't trying to hold his redshirt considering Bell could duplicate a lot of Black's strong suits.

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    Re: Chris Black to make debut against Georgia

    Quote Originally Posted by Alasippi View Post
    So you think Coach Saban is going to bench Norwood or Christion Jones for the SEC Championship Game in order to start a kid who's never dressed out in a Bama uniform?

    Hey, you're just fired up and that's cool! Let's just hope if he does play that he makes a big play or two and helps us win.

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    I just think this kid is a special talent. He was the talk of the Spring and we all saw him look quite capable in the Spring game. A kid that young and talented needs to be on the field and Coach knows that. I do not think anyone will be benched to play him but I do think he will get a shot. And if he shines then Chris Black's breakout game could be this Saturday in the SEC Championship Game against the Dawgs.
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    Re: Chris Black to make debut against Georgia

    Quote Originally Posted by Alasippi View Post
    Synopsis!!

    I'm not saying he should play. I'm not saying he shouldn't play.

    I don't care if he plays or not.

    If he does I hope he has a great game.

    My every post was simply trying to say that I would be surprised if Saban played him.

    That's all, that's it, and if I'm wrong so be it and good If I'm right, who cares, as long as we win

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    In view of your past posts, I'm extremely surprised that you are going to be surprised when he plays. Saban has said that it's all but a certainty. rgw does really have the rotation figured correctly. Black fills a really big hole. That's the reason for all of the lead-up and Saban's remarks. I'd give about 10-1 odds that he plays. How he performs is up to him...
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    Re: Chris Black to make debut against Georgia

    im in the minority but i think the only way he plays is if the other WR's struggle getting open or someone goes down with injury.

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    Re: Chris Black to make debut against Georgia

    Quote Originally Posted by westide View Post
    Sip, you would make a good politician!
    Either that or I should replace Finebaumn...LOL This one got kinda sorta out of hand.

    I know Coach Saban's job is to win championships.

    At the same time, all I was saying, is that my gut feeling is that he will give the players who have gone through every game the entire season the first opportunity to show they can get the job done before he places such a big burden on a youngster who hasn't played a down.

    That's it. That's all it was.

    If it turns into a situation where he's needed, then absolutely play the young man!

    I just said, "I hope we don't need him"..and I'd be surprised if anybody hoped we did.

    He could break his leg in the first series next season and that redshirt would suddenly become important, not for the team, but for Chris.

    That's what I think Coach Saban looks at and that's why I think he'll try to sit him if possible.

    That's all.

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    Re: Chris Black to make debut against Georgia

    Quote Originally Posted by Alasippi View Post
    Synopsis!!

    I'm not saying he should play. I'm not saying he shouldn't play.

    I don't care if he plays or not.

    If he does I hope he has a great game.

    My every post was simply trying to say that I would be surprised if Saban played him.

    That's all, that's it, and if I'm wrong so be it and good If I'm right, who cares, as long as we win

    sip
    Dont get mad at us,man you are one of the main reasons I joined this board. You are a Real Bama fan!

    I just got a chance to see this kid play in HS & I am probably over excited. He is something Great.

    I really do get what you are saying & would be with you but the loss of Bell I think changed everything.

    We gonna beat GA & CB will be a big part of it, not a decoy.
    This game is gonna be exciting!
    Roll Tide!

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    Re: Chris Black to make debut against Georgia

    Quote Originally Posted by gamersfuel View Post
    im in the minority but i think the only way he plays is if the other WR's struggle getting open or someone goes down with injury.
    The only way he doesn't play is if he misses the bus to the Dome.

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    Re: Chris Black to make debut against Georgia

    Quote Originally Posted by TIDE-HSV View Post
    In view of your past posts, I'm extremely surprised that you are going to be surprised when he plays. Saban has said that it's all but a certainty. rgw does really have the rotation figured correctly. Black fills a really big hole. That's the reason for all of the lead-up and Saban's remarks. I'd give about 10-1 odds that he plays. How he performs is up to him...
    If he plays I hope he has an incredible game and is the "surprise" that Georgia isn't prepared for.

    You are indeed correct. If he plays the results are up to him. That's the reason I don't think Saban would put that much pressure on him unless totally necessary.

    That's a ton of pressure on a true freshman who has never suited up and was the basis of my every comment.

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    Re: Chris Black to make debut against Georgia

    Quote Originally Posted by Alasippi View Post
    Earle, I understand because of the kids ability and probable future that the red shirt probably means nothing. Agreed in total.

    There's just this gut feeling that Coach Saban really and truly doesn't want to play him if he doesn't have to...in part because he hasn't been there the entire season and , right or wrong, the players that have been might feel a bit of resentment.

    Kinda like, "Dance with the girl who brung ya to the dance".

    Ultimately, if he plays I hope he kills it. If he doesn't, I'll be thankful that he has at least the possibility of another year.

    There's no negative side from me, I was just trying to look at from the way Saban normally looks at it, which I'm not really capable of doing...lol...
    The way I understood Coach Saban's comments in his press conference was that CB will play. Maybe I misheard that. Also, if I'm not mistaken, after losing Bell we are one WR short in our normal rotation, which means if he doesn't play somebody has to double up to cover Bell's absence.

    I also think Coach Saban expects that he could be a contributor in whatever way he is used.

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