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    Re: Murray was hit CLEAN by Dial. After an interception quarterback becomes a DEFENDE

    Quote Originally Posted by trenda View Post
    Whether it's 5 or 10 yards, he was clearly running (albeit slowly) toward the ball carrier.
    Yes, but in today's football, a unnecessary hard hit is usually penalized for the health of the players. Dial could have easily just put his hands out and pushed him away.

    Hey, don't get me wrong, I'm glad they didn't call it but I wouldn't have been surprised if they did. But I don't think it was a pivotal non-call that changed the game. We would have had the ball anyhow.

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    Re: Murray was hit CLEAN by Dial. After an interception quarterback becomes a DEFENDE

    There was a ref 3-4 yards away looking directly at AM and QD when it happened. There was no need for a flag.

    The play was in no way the same as the hit on AJ.

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    Re: Murray was hit CLEAN by Dial. After an interception quarterback becomes a DEFENDE

    Watching the ACC Champ game... and Herbstreit and Fussburger are talking about murray being a "defenseless player." Seriously? This is going to become the 2012-13 meme ... just like mccoy getting knocked out the game in the 2009 BCS game... "If Murray hadn't been hit so defenselessly, UGA would have won."

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    Re: Murray was hit CLEAN by Dial. After an interception quarterback becomes a DEFENDE

    Quote Originally Posted by BamaNation View Post
    Watching the ACC Champ game... and Herbstreit and Fussburger are talking about murray being a "defenseless player." Seriously? This is going to become the 2012-13 meme ... just like mccoy getting knocked out the game in the 2009 BCS game... "If Murray hadn't been hit so defenselessly, UGA would have won."

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    Re: Murray was hit CLEAN by Dial. After an interception quarterback becomes a DEFENDE

    Quote Originally Posted by 37bamagreats55 View Post
    It should have been a flag.
    How? He didn't lead with the head, the hit to the face was not after the throw (ala roughing the passer, etc.) and he was clearly blocking for Clinton-Dix. So what did he do wrong?

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    Re: Murray was hit CLEAN by Dial. After an interception quarterback becomes a DEFENDE

    Based on how the rules are now, perhaps it should have been a penalty. Perhaps... I don't think it should be, and I don't think it was dirty. I've seen this discussed many times before, and let's face it. How often do you see unnecessary roughness on a block?

    The announcers had some sort of weird agenda on this play. They were obsessed with it. If it wasn't clean, it was really close to being clean. It was a good hard block on a defender. It's not the blockers fault that the defender seemed to be wandering aimlessly towards the play. You can't let him go unblocked...

    If this is a suspension like the announcers were lobbying for, it would be an absolute travesty and mark the end of the SEC as a prestigious entity and usher in the new era of the SEC...

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    Re: Murray was hit CLEAN by Dial. After an interception quarterback becomes a DEFENDE

    Quote Originally Posted by 37bamagreats55 View Post
    It should have been a flag. A nasty hit, no doubt. However, GA did the same thing to A.J. earlier in the game.
    And did anybody see the GA player gauge Milner's eyes out when Milner got the retaliation flag? CBS didn't whisper one word about that player or show a MILLION replays of that classless act.
    The hit on AJ came right after he released the ball; Murray was hit after the INT, during the return. Different rules apply in the two situations.
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    Re: Murray was hit CLEAN by Dial. After an interception quarterback becomes a DEFENDE

    I imagine if you look at game film, there are helmet-to-helmet hits on almost every, if not every, play....didn't look like he LEAD with his helmet to me. Several puppy fans where I work so I'll be sure to take plenty of tissue Monday...

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    Re: Murray was hit CLEAN by Dial. After an interception quarterback becomes a DEFENDE

    I'm about tired of these "helmet to helmet" calls.

    It's football!

    FWIW, I'm talking about the incidental "helmet to helmet" calls that are just part of the game.

    Not talking about leading with helmet -- I get that, but this incidental stuff is going to ruin football as we know it.

    I'm calling it right now: In the near future somebody will lose a game because of this craziness on a over-cautious call. Just hope it's not Bama!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrAzY3 View Post
    Based on how the rules are now, perhaps it should have been a penalty. Perhaps... I don't think it should be, and I don't think it was dirty. I've seen this discussed many times before, and let's face it. How often do you see unnecessary roughness on a block?

    The announcers had some sort of weird agenda on this play. They were obsessed with it. If it wasn't clean, it was really close to being clean. It was a good hard block on a defender. It's not the blockers fault that the defender seemed to be wandering aimlessly towards the play. You can't let him go unblocked...

    If this is a suspension like the announcers were lobbying for, it would be an absolute travesty and mark the end of the SEC as a prestigious entity and usher in the new era of the SEC...
    Do we really think the SEC will suspend a player from the SEC Championship team going into the National Championship game? Of course, with Mike Slive, one never knows I guess.

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    Re: Murray was hit CLEAN by Dial. After an interception quarterback becomes a DEFENDE

    The SEC will take a look, no doubt. No telling what their ruling will be either. Was it clean? I believe so. Nothing but a blocker doing his job on a defender moving towards the ball carrier. If they say that the QB should have protection on this type of play, what kind of a game is football gonna become? Two hand touch on the QB. If he moves toward the ball, game on. If he doesnt want to get hit, run to the sideline.

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    Re: Murray was hit CLEAN by Dial. After an interception quarterback becomes a DEFENDE

    I've been a Bama fan for years. This is it for me guys. You have the blinders on. If it would have been Auburn we (me included) would say how classless this was. I can't beleive the kid was let back into the game. I'm done with bama. Ban me if you wish.

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    Re: Murray was hit CLEAN by Dial. After an interception quarterback becomes a DEFENDE

    Does CBS have the SEC games next year, please say no...

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