The thing is that he wasn't defenseless. He was in line of the play.It is called football. If he didn't want to be hit then run AWAY from the play not toward it. Was he defenseless, yes. But whose fault is that?
Not looking around to see if someone's headed your way does not make you defenseless--it makes you stupid.It is called football. If he didn't want to be hit then run AWAY from the play not toward it. Was he defenseless, yes. But whose fault is that?
If there was no shoulder lead Murray would have been carried off the field. He was immediately clear headed and let a coach know it on the sideline, they didn't even check for a concussion that I know of. This is about a big ole player hitting a smaller quarterback not paying attention imo. College QB's should not be treated like franchise multimillion dollar NFL franshise QB's. That would be ridiculous.I said I'd reopen this thread when the SEC ruled. (BTW, I disagree with the ruling.)
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The thing is that he wasn't defenseless. He was in line of the play.
I believe this is 100% the result of the outcry by Danielson and Brando.I said I'd reopen this thread when the SEC ruled. (BTW, I disagree with the ruling.)
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And it's much more difficult for today's lineman to get low like the more wormy players of the past.He's not defenseless player. Dial led with the shoulder but being 6'8" and hitting a 6'0" guy it must be hard to avoid the helmet contact, even if you try to get low.
Just about everything today is moderated by the amount of television lobbying it seems and they are very often out of touch with the consensus opinion. Reality can be easily manufactured through spin.I believe this is 100% the result of the outcry by Danielson and Brando.
By any objective reasoning, the hit did not violate the rules. But it looked nasty and a big stink was raised by the CBS bobble heads, so the SEC office feels the need to respond. Pathetic, IMO.
Totally agree, but leading with the shoulder rather than the helmet isn't much of a mitigating factor when the SEC determines suspensions. The rule the SEC uses is the following, "No player shall target and initiate contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent with the helmet, forearm, elbow or shoulder."If there was no shoulder lead Murray would have been carried off the field.
The Oklahoma drill is already outlawed in most HS if I recall.I am sick of them calling him defenseless first of all. Is a gunner on the edges getting decleated a defenseless player?
This is freaking football!!! I remember my coach making me run across the field and our LB's practicing open field tackling by leveling us!!!!!
Is the blocker supposed to tap him on his shoulder, them take 6 steps away from each other and play the "Oklahoma" drill?
The SEC can suspend Dial if they suspend the Georgia player.
They can suspend Dial the day they announce that there was no tipped ball causing the 4th down FG, which was blocked.
In the NFL, blindside blocks, particularly on punt returns, can be illegal and result in fines.I am sick of them calling him defenseless first of all. Is a gunner on the edges getting decleated a defenseless player
That wasn't the entire exchange. Dee pushes the guy back, but another UGA player pushes Dee afterwards. The second UGA player is the one Dee pushes, causing the flag.What makes me so mad is you see the head Ref doesn't see what happens, but decides to throw a flag on Dee anyway? What was that about?