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    Re: Rubber Match--Tied at 8 AP National Titles each

    Not true.

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    Re: Rubber Match--Tied at 8 AP National Titles each

    i always thought they used the ap and upi when considering titles..go to wikipedia, modern era 1936 to present. bama has 9, nd 8. been hearing this week bama going for 3 out of 4 years since nebraska "94, "95 and "97. espn has been saying this and "97, michigan got the ap and nebraska the upi(coaches poll).

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    Re: Rubber Match--Tied at 8 AP National Titles each

    Quote Originally Posted by hamntn View Post
    Not true.
    Yes True

    AP Titles By school

    School Number Seasons
    Alabama 8 1961, 1964, 1965, 1978, 1979, 1992, 2009, 2011
    Notre Dame 8 1943, 1946, 1947, 1949, 1966, 1973, 1977, 1988
    Oklahoma 7 1950, 1955, 1956, 1974, 1975, 1985, 2000
    Miami (FL) 5 1983, 1987, 1989, 1991, 2001
    USC 5 1962, 1967, 1972, 2003, 2004
    Minnesota 4 1936, 1940, 1941, 1960
    Nebraska 4 1970, 1971, 1994, 1995

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    Re: Rubber Match--Tied at 8 AP National Titles each

    Quote Originally Posted by Jordan54 View Post
    After 1966 and 1977, I would not be surprised if this happens. They will use any excuse to give it to ND.
    While we did get ripped off in 1966 and 1977--we did not play Notre Dame on the field.

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    Re: Rubber Match--Tied at 8 AP National Titles each

    Quote Originally Posted by BAMA1979 View Post
    http://www.ncaa.com/history/football/fbs

    The NCAA website recognizes more than the AP winner.
    Yes today they also recognize the BCS winner and the AP.

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    Re: Rubber Match--Tied at 8 AP National Titles each

    Quote Originally Posted by Bama1985 View Post
    Yes True

    AP Titles By school

    School Number Seasons
    Alabama 8 1961, 1964, 1965, 1978, 1979, 1992, 2009, 2011
    Notre Dame 8 1943, 1946, 1947, 1949, 1966, 1973, 1977, 1988
    Oklahoma 7 1950, 1955, 1956, 1974, 1975, 1985, 2000
    Miami (FL) 5 1983, 1987, 1989, 1991, 2001
    USC 5 1962, 1967, 1972, 2003, 2004
    Minnesota 4 1936, 1940, 1941, 1960
    Nebraska 4 1970, 1971, 1994, 1995
    so your sayin nebraska in "97 and usc in "94 dont go down as national champions...they do. most people go by the modern era..1938 to present using the ap and the upi(coaches poll). bama has 9.

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    Re: Rubber Match--Tied at 8 AP National Titles each

    Quote Originally Posted by crimsoncamaro View Post
    so your sayin nebraska in "97 and usc in "94 dont go down as national champions...they do. most people go by the modern era..1938 to present using the ap and the upi(coaches poll). bama has 9.
    i meant usc in "03

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    Re: Rubber Match--Tied at 8 AP National Titles each

    When we win on Jan. 7, the stuff I buy is going to say 15. That is the number I'm going with.
    So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal. - 2 Corinthians 4:18

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    Re: Rubber Match--Tied at 8 AP National Titles each

    I've always accepted what the University claims which is currently 14.

    http://www.rolltide.com/trads/nation...pionships.html

    Just because there weren't any consolidated methods in the early years doesn't mean I'm willing to take away from what those young men earned on the field.

    I'd like to see the tweeters out there make #15Rings a trending hash tag by January.
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    Re: Rubber Match--Tied at 8 AP National Titles each

    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica4Bama View Post
    When we win on Jan. 7, the stuff I buy is going to say 15. That is the number I'm going with.
    i agree 100%...our players celebrated all those titles. we will have 15 no doubt.

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    Re: Rubber Match--Tied at 8 AP National Titles each

    Quote Originally Posted by crimsoncamaro View Post
    so your sayin nebraska in "97 and usc in "94 dont go down as national champions...they do. most people go by the modern era..1938 to present using the ap and the upi(coaches poll). bama has 9.
    Once the BCS system went into place, the conferences agreed that the BCS ranking system would determine the 2 top ranked teams and they would be matched up in a championship game. That is why the final AP poll is no longer relevant in the BCS era.

    It's fine for programs to accept all the awards they get and claim all the championships they can dig up, but the truth of the matter is that the BCS champion is the champion, not the AP.

    The AP had it's run, but it's over.
    Last edited by JeffAtlanta; December 5th, 2012 at 10:30 AM.

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    Re: Rubber Match--Tied at 8 AP National Titles each

    Quote Originally Posted by AgentAntiOrange View Post
    Just because there weren't any consolidated methods in the early years doesn't mean I'm willing to take away from what those young men earned on the field. I'd like to see the tweeters out there make #15Rings a trending hash tag by January.
    Once you do that, you open the door to Michigan claiming 22, Notre Dame 21, Ohio State 14, Pittsburgh, 11, LSU 8 and Auburn 5.

    It just leads to championship inflation because once you start going outside of the wire services almost every year have several national champions. This championship inflation actually diminishes how dominant that Alabama has been since 1936. While Alabama has been awarded 8 or 9 titles, very few other schools can even claim 2.

    Those pre-1936 games shouldn't be forgotten, but they shouldn't be lumped into the current era either. For example, when discussing the NFL, champions from the super bowl era aren't grouped together with the NFL champions of the 1920s.
    Last edited by JeffAtlanta; December 5th, 2012 at 10:31 AM.

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    Re: Rubber Match--Tied at 8 AP National Titles each

    Quote Originally Posted by JeffAtlanta View Post
    Once you do that, you open the door to Michigan claiming 22, Notre Dame 21, Ohio State 14, Pittsburgh, 11, LSU 8 and Auburn 5.

    It just leads to championship inflation because once you start going outside of the wire services almost every year have several national champions. This championship inflation actually diminishes how dominant that Alabama has been since 1936. While Alabama has been awarded 8 or 9 titles, very few other schools can even claim 2.

    Those pre-1936 games shouldn't be forgotten, but they shouldn't be lumped into the current era either. For example, when discussing the NFL, champions from the super bowl era aren't grouped together with the NFL champions of the 1920s.
    Good points. The NCAA recognized only the AP for a certain period in order to eliminate all of this Title inflation. Using the AP as a standard gives us a reference point that all teams across the country recognize. 15 titles is fine for us as Bama nation to celebrate within our community; it does not fly with the rest of the nation---Oklahoma fans laugh at our claim of 14 titles, however they do respect our 8 AP and 2 BCS National Titles. All college football fans have to respect the AP and BCS titles.

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