JUCO QB Jake Waters commits to Kansas St
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Re: Jake Waters Juco QB gets Alabama visit
It's been mentioned several times here that A.J. will probably go and the fact he wouldn't be a top pick will not deter that line of thinking. Even a lower round QB will make several hundred thousand a year.
I think he is gone.
It's been mentioned several times here that A.J. will probably go and the fact he wouldn't be a top pick will not deter that line of thinking. Even a lower round QB will make several hundred thousand a year.
I think he is gone.
Re: Jake Waters Juco QB gets Alabama visit
AJ aside, The kid looks like a good ball player, though the video in this thread doesnt show a lot of down field passes. Doesnt get stuck on one option though, and seems pretty dynamic.
AJ aside, The kid looks like a good ball player, though the video in this thread doesnt show a lot of down field passes. Doesnt get stuck on one option though, and seems pretty dynamic.
Re: Jake Waters Juco QB gets Alabama visit
He's passing efficiency is through the roof and he seems like he would be a quality QB but I don't think this indicates that AJ is gone. The coaching staffs' job is to get the best 85 players on the roster to start the season and he could make our QB depth that much better. Doesn't mean AJ is gone but could indicate that the coaching staff is worried that if AJ goes down next year that they might not have enough confidence in the backup running the team at this moment.
He's passing efficiency is through the roof and he seems like he would be a quality QB but I don't think this indicates that AJ is gone. The coaching staffs' job is to get the best 85 players on the roster to start the season and he could make our QB depth that much better. Doesn't mean AJ is gone but could indicate that the coaching staff is worried that if AJ goes down next year that they might not have enough confidence in the backup running the team at this moment.
Re: Jake Waters Juco QB gets Alabama visit
I think a lot of that talk has died down. It doesn't look like AJ's going to leave anymore from what HSV-Tide says.
Re: Jake Waters Juco QB gets Alabama visit
Yeah, AJ hasn't looked like the top notch QB the last month or so. When you are being talked about as a Heisman finalist there is a good reason to leave. All that talk has gone away and there are a lot of good QB's going this year. It will be interesting to see what happens
Yeah, AJ hasn't looked like the top notch QB the last month or so. When you are being talked about as a Heisman finalist there is a good reason to leave. All that talk has gone away and there are a lot of good QB's going this year. It will be interesting to see what happens
Re: Jake Waters Juco QB gets Alabama visit
The kid who broke Cam Newtons record. Remember Cam Newton? The one and done phenom that won it all for Auburn? I guess it would be worth a scholarship just to keep Gus Malzahn from getting him!
The kid who broke Cam Newtons record. Remember Cam Newton? The one and done phenom that won it all for Auburn? I guess it would be worth a scholarship just to keep Gus Malzahn from getting him!
Re: Jake Waters Juco QB gets Alabama visit
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=89692&draftyear=2014&genpos=qb
he's rated the #5 qb right now...that would likely bring him a late first or early second round selection (although depends on how many other juniors come out). Still he'd be a top 3 round choice
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=89692&draftyear=2014&genpos=qb
Re: Jake Waters Juco QB gets Alabama visit
I see the Nitters are hammering this kid on twitter....bunch of freaks
I see the Nitters are hammering this kid on twitter....bunch of freaks
Per ESPN he is rated #5 among JUNIORS, which puts him around 10th overall... only 11 QB's even drafted last year
Re: Jake Waters Juco QB gets Alabama visit
gotcha. cbs has 10 qb's projected in top 3 rounds but they don't list juniors so i don't know where AJ would stack up against glennon, murray, etc
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2013/QB
gotcha. cbs has 10 qb's projected in top 3 rounds but they don't list juniors so i don't know where AJ would stack up against glennon, murray, etc
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2013/QB
Re: Jake Waters Juco QB gets Alabama visit
The only QBs right now prior to the workouts that really look to go in the first round at QB are Barkley and Geno. Landry Jones could work his way in there, but he has to kill at the Combine in all facets. But he's not even guaranteed 2nd round at the moment.
This is a weak class for QB, there's going to be less reaches than many think for that position in the draft.
And those that says they don't think AJ could improve his stock by returning next year...You're wrong.
The only QBs right now prior to the workouts that really look to go in the first round at QB are Barkley and Geno. Landry Jones could work his way in there, but he has to kill at the Combine in all facets. But he's not even guaranteed 2nd round at the moment.
This is a weak class for QB, there's going to be less reaches than many think for that position in the draft.
And those that says they don't think AJ could improve his stock by returning next year...You're wrong.
Re: Jake Waters Juco QB gets Alabama visit
Someone please explain to me why we would be looking at taking a 3rd qb and a juco at that this late in the recruiting season in this class. Are their problems that we dont know about? Is Ely not serviceable and/or are we maybe losing one of the two that are set to be EE's next month? Is Blake Sims changing positions? Not sure I understand the rationale here.
Someone please explain to me why we would be looking at taking a 3rd qb and a juco at that this late in the recruiting season in this class. Are their problems that we dont know about? Is Ely not serviceable and/or are we maybe losing one of the two that are set to be EE's next month? Is Blake Sims changing positions? Not sure I understand the rationale here.
Re: Jake Waters Juco QB gets Alabama visit
If AJ leaves the QB battle on A-Day will be very interesting.
If AJ leaves the QB battle on A-Day will be very interesting.
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Re: Jake Waters Juco QB gets Alabama visit
Blake Sims - Great runner, serviceable passer. Not a really good fit for our offense.
Phillip Ely - Low upside game manager. A poor man's Greg McElroy, who has more heart than talent. Could we win with him? Yeah...could we win a BCSNC with him? I doubt it.
Alec Morris - No game experience in college, and an unknown commodity. Looked good in HS, but never looked great. Has good size for a QB (6'4) and good arm strength, but lacks mobility and always had a slow release.
Cooper Bateman - Recently got his 5th star by scout, and is their (scout) number 2 qb in the nation. Great size, and unbelievable arm. Slow feet are his only downside. But do you trust your team being led by a TRUE freshman?
Parker Mcleod - Looks like a GMac clone, from his measurables to his fire red hair. Like GMac I would assume he would need a few years behind someone to get ready for the spotlight.
Jake Waters provides game experience, at least, in case of AJ's early departure.
If AJ decides to leave, and we don't sign a JUCO with some experience, here is what we look like...
Blake Sims - Great runner, serviceable passer. Not a really good fit for our offense.
Phillip Ely - Low upside game manager. A poor man's Greg McElroy, who has more heart than talent. Could we win with him? Yeah...could we win a BCSNC with him? I doubt it.
Alec Morris - No game experience in college, and an unknown commodity. Looked good in HS, but never looked great. Has good size for a QB (6'4) and good arm strength, but lacks mobility and always had a slow release.
Cooper Bateman - Recently got his 5th star by scout, and is their (scout) number 2 qb in the nation. Great size, and unbelievable arm. Slow feet are his only downside. But do you trust your team being led by a TRUE freshman?
Parker Mcleod - Looks like a GMac clone, from his measurables to his fire red hair. Like GMac I would assume he would need a few years behind someone to get ready for the spotlight.
Jake Waters provides game experience, at least, in case of AJ's early departure.
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Cooper Bateman's feet are far from slow and you may be underselling Morris' ability a bit.
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Cooper Bateman's feet are far from slow and you may be underselling Morris' ability a bit.
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Re: Jake Waters Juco QB gets Alabama visit
I base that off of the film I have watched (though it is limited I admit), and what recruiting services say about him when I do my research...
I said he's an unproven commodity, with a great size, a great arm, and slow feet... That's almost word for word what you would have seen on any recruiting site. He may be AMAZING, but until we see that...he's an unknown. In high school he looked like he had a lot of room to grow (not physically, as a QB), and hadn't maxed out his potential yet. Until we see how a year under Coach Nuss (who is a QB guru of sorts) has helped him, he is still an enigma.
I base that off of the film I have watched (though it is limited I admit), and what recruiting services say about him when I do my research...
I said he's an unproven commodity, with a great size, a great arm, and slow feet... That's almost word for word what you would have seen on any recruiting site. He may be AMAZING, but until we see that...he's an unknown. In high school he looked like he had a lot of room to grow (not physically, as a QB), and hadn't maxed out his potential yet. Until we see how a year under Coach Nuss (who is a QB guru of sorts) has helped him, he is still an enigma.
TRUE Freshman, as opposed to REDSHIRT Freshman... there is an ASTRONOMICAL difference... If Bateman had a year in the system, and knew the ins and outs...sure, hand him the ball.
Re: Jake Waters Juco QB gets Alabama visit
Hence Morris and why if AJ got hurt it was reported the staff would burn his RS. Bateman would not beat Morris out if AJ leaves. Morris next fall will have 3 semesters under him. Now if AJ stays the following year may be interesting but Morris will be the #2 next year.
Hence Morris and why if AJ got hurt it was reported the staff would burn his RS. Bateman would not beat Morris out if AJ leaves. Morris next fall will have 3 semesters under him. Now if AJ stays the following year may be interesting but Morris will be the #2 next year.
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