And how many times have they beaten Alabama?Mettzenburger and Murray played really well against our defense and they aren't exactly scrambling QB's.
And how many times have they beaten Alabama?Mettzenburger and Murray played really well against our defense and they aren't exactly scrambling QB's.
All Heisman winners that year (or year before (TT)). Are you suggesting Golson is playing at that level?Add Tebow, Cam, and Johnny Fball and you can start to get an idea of the type QB who could beat Alabama.
And again, I say that using JJ as an example is silly - ND doesn't have NEARLY the talent surrounding Golson as JJ had at LSU.JJ beat Alabama twice, so no. Just saying a mobile QB is a threat in this game. I don't think he is good enough to win, but could cause problems with a roll out with the TE.
Because that's not how JJ beat us - if it weren't for ridiculous talent everywhere on the field, the fact he could tuck it and run wouldn't have amounted to anything.What is silly about a bad QB who can run beating Alabana? It is a threat. Without a few lucky bounces and Gohlson making some plays with his legs, ND has no chance.
Totally agree, that's how Bama is beaten. It's something ND doesn't have. I think it ends up like our Michigan game. To me, just my opinion, ND looks slow.Because that's not how JJ beat us - if it weren't for ridiculous talent everywhere on the field, the fact he could tuck it and run wouldn't have amounted to anything.
I don't think Golson has the talent around him to allow his legs to challenge us very much. They do have a senior-lden OL and such, but they certainly don't have the talent UF, A&M or LSU had surrounding those QBs when they beat us.
I'm NOT saying Golson can't give us problems, and I'm NOT saying ND can't win - I'm simply equating his ability to run with JJ's and therefor concluding he could beat us is a stretch, as on any 'normally' talented team, JJ doesn't beat us either time.
I'm not trying to be argumentative here, I just think I failed to make my point above.
Michigan St 14 of 32 for 178 yards with 1 td.How did the QB do against the top defenses ND faced this year?
Well, wow, I thought it would be better than that. But he wasn't a concern for me any way.Michigan St 14 of 32 for 178 yards with 1 td.
Michigan 3 of 8 for 30 yards 0 td 2 int.
Stanford 12 of 24 for 141 yards 1 td.
Didn't play against BYU
Oklahoma 13 of 25 for 177 yards 0 td 0 int.
So I would say not that well but most of those were earlier in the year.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/515409/everett-golson
Those are his full numbers did most of his damage against BC, Wake, and Pitt.
ND could be suffering some of the same things that UGA was suffering going into the championship game; except for UGA it was their defense was making strides and becoming a dominant unit with Notre Dame it's the offense is making strides and really becoming good. The common thread is that their level of competition went down significantly. Notre Dame's last four were against Pitt, BC, Wake, and USC.Well, wow, I thought it would be better than that. But he wasn't a concern for me any way.
That game is pretty much the tale of their season. USCw was awful that night, plus played a freshman QB. They weren't going to win.I watched their game against USC, but it's hard to get a good feel for that game since Barlley didn't play.
when was the last time ND played in a big game that meant anything???Looking at their schedule, the last decent team they played was Oklahoma, and that was before Halloween.
Since then we have played LSU, A&M and Georgia, 3 teams that are ranked in the top 10.
May not mean much, but it seems we would be much more battle tested going into this game.
Plus, our coaches and players are used to playing against really good teams in big games.
When is the last time ND faced a truly good, top 5 type team?
Agreed. USC's defense is horrible. They gave up 39 to Arizona, 62 to Oregon, and 38 to UCLA. The fact that they were able to hold ND to 22 and lose by 9 all but shows that if Barkley had played, then ND probably would have lost.That game is pretty much the tale of their season. USCw was awful that night, plus played a freshman QB. They weren't going to win.