View Poll Results: Should we disavow the 1941 Championship?

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    19 12.84%
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    Re: Should we disavow the 1941 Championship?

    Honestly, I would just rather see Alabama claim its 9 poll titles (1961, 1964, 1965, 1973, 1978, 1979, 1992, 2009, and 2011) and mention the Rose Bowl teams somewhere (1925, 1926, 1930, and 1934).
    "Each play has a history and a life of its own. How is that play going to be remembered? If you're focusing on that play and what you have to do that single play, usually you'll do pretty good on it." - Coach Nick Saban

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    Re: Should we disavow the 1941 Championship?

    If we won the title in 41 we won the title. It's ours forever. It's not up to me to decide whether we should claim it or not.

    In 66 and 77 we should have won it and didn't. It doesn't matter what I think about it, the fact is we didn't win it. Me wanting to claim it is moot. Is it "questionable" that we didn't win it? Absolutely. Don't make a bit of difference. We didn't. They did. It's in the record books.

    So I'm not about to disavow a title just because it was one that might possibly be considered a bit questionable.
    Not for one single second.

    Roll Tide.

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    Re: Should we disavow the 1941 Championship?

    Quote Originally Posted by CapstoneGrad06 View Post
    Honestly, I would just rather see Alabama claim its 9 poll titles (1961, 1964, 1965, 1973, 1978, 1979, 1992, 2009, and 2011) and mention the Rose Bowl teams somewhere (1925, 1926, 1930, and 1934).
    I respectfully do not agree at all. The way they did it back then wasn't the way they do it now but that doesn't mean that, at the time, it was wrong. That would be like asking Army and the Notre Dame Rockne teams to give up the titles they earned back then as well and that's just not good for college football history and tradition.

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    Re: Should we disavow the 1941 Championship?

    Im doubtful any of the guys on that '41 team are still around but if they were I sure wouldn't tell them their championship was undeserved.

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    Re: Should we disavow the 1941 Championship?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alasippi View Post
    If we won the title in 41 we won the title. It's ours forever. It's not up to me to decide whether we should claim it or not.

    In 66 and 77 we should have won it and didn't. It doesn't matter what I think about it, the fact is we didn't win it. Me wanting to claim it is moot. Is it "questionable" that we didn't win it? Absolutely. Don't make a bit of difference. We didn't. They did. It's in the record books.

    So I'm not about to disavow a title just because it was one that might possibly be considered a bit questionable.
    Not for one single second.

    Roll Tide.

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    Actually, Bama had more Selectors award their NC to them in 1966 and 1977 than 1941. Six (ARGH Power Ratings, Cliff Morgan, Clyde Berryman, Earl Jessen, National Championship Foundation, Soren Sorensen) in 1966. Two (Bob Kirlin, College Football Researchers Association) in 1977. One (Houlgate System) in 1941.

    http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data...nal_champs.php
    Last edited by ALA2262; December 12th, 2012 at 05:21 PM.

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    Re: Should we disavow the 1941 Championship?

    Threads like this bother me because I wonder to myself, "With all the positives going on with Bama football right now in 2012 why in the world would we feel the need to discuss something so negative as to whether we should disavow a national championship we won 71 years ago?"

    I mean maybe I need someone to explain to me these questions, "What positive and useful purpose does this thread serve?" "How does it benefit anybody involved with Alabama football in any way whatsoever?"..and finally "Are you kidding me?"

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    Re: Should we disavow the 1941 Championship?

    Quote Originally Posted by CullmanTide View Post
    Im doubtful any of the guys on that '41 team are still around but if they were I sure wouldn't tell them their championship was undeserved.
    You get my drift completely. Why in the world are we discussing this? Those guys won what they won at the time they won it and in the way it was determined back then. 71 years later I am almost appalled that Bama fans, of all people, are discussing whether they deserved it or not.
    I just wonder how those guys would feel if they could read all his crap. I'm just amazed.
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    Re: Should we disavow the 1941 Championship?

    Quote Originally Posted by ALA2262 View Post
    Actually, Bama had more Selectors award their NC to them in 1966 and 1977 than 1941. Six (ARGH Power Ratings, Cliff Morgan, Clyde Berryman, Earl Jessen, National Championship Foundation, Soren Sorensen) in 1966. Two (Bob Kirlin, College Football Researchers Association) in 1977. One (Houlgate System) in 1941.

    http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data...nal_champs.php
    I respect the post sincerely but there's a simple fact that needs to be addressed---If in fact the Houlgate System was recognized as a legitimate championship selector or poll in 1941 then that's the way it was. If they selected us then they did.

    We can't use 2012 logic to determine if 1941 logic was correct. It's not 1941.

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    Re: Should we disavow the 1941 Championship?

    View 1941 on this list:

    http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data...nal_champs.php

    View 1941 on this list:

    http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data...nal_champs.php

    Now tell me what team was THE 1941 NC.

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    Re: Should we disavow the 1941 Championship?

    Are we going to someday not count the years we were AP champions or BCS champions because there wasn't a playoff those years? Heck, I was at the University during the 1966 season and I still think we were shafted. During several of the 14 championship years there were multiple champions in various polls. I am sure the team that won the UPI trophy in 1964 counts that as a championship year.

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    Re: Should we disavow the 1941 Championship?

    Quote Originally Posted by ALA2262 View Post
    View 1941 on this list:

    http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data...nal_champs.php

    View 1941 on this list:

    http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data...nal_champs.php

    Now tell me what team was THE 1941 NC.
    I have viewed it in concrete at Bryant-Denny stadium. That's good enough for me.

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    Re: Should we disavow the 1941 Championship?

    Tell me you actually started this thread to identify the "barners" on this board.

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    Should we disavow the 1941 Championship?

    Quote Originally Posted by CullmanTide View Post
    I have viewed it in concrete at Bryant-Denny stadium. That's good enough for me.
    If it's in concrete it must be true! Agreed!

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