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    Re: Former Players That May Get into Coaching Later....

    I honestly can't see any of the "big name" players getting into coaching.
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    Re: Former Players That May Get into Coaching Later....

    Quote Originally Posted by rtcjny View Post
    Yeah maybe coaching the prison football team.
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    Re: Former Players That May Get into Coaching Later....

    Vinnie for sure.
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    Re: Former Players That May Get into Coaching Later....

    Chris Bonds.



    Great character guy. He came here very heavily recruited. Had a leg injury toward the end of high school. But he's been a great teammate here. He still has at least one year of eligibility left, but if you pay attention during the game, he's the guy wearing #93 and with probably the cleanest uniform of any of our players and he's holding up signs to call plays in. Seems as if he's already on the path to coaching.

    And as it is, the best coaches most times are guys who weren't the superstars (i.e. Coach Bryant being NFL HoFer's Don Hutson's teammate and Coach Saban being NFL HoFer's Jack Lambert's teammate). For several reasons....the ones with the talent can use their God given ability to compensate for mistakes. The ones that aren't as talented have to learn ALL the right things in order to be successful. The superstars often don't have the patience for the underachievers or for those that don't work as hard as they did (reference Magic Johnson's failure as a head coach of the Lakers, Mike Singletary's failure in San Francisco, and Steve Spurrier's notorious impatience with his QBs over the years), but the ones who weren't as awfully talented can understand the plight of those who aren't as talented.

    So that's how you can get the Nick Sabans and Les Mileses of the world. Most of the great coaches were probably scout team type players, giving them time to absorb a LOT of knowledge while helping to prepare their teammates for competition.
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    Re: Former Players That May Get into Coaching Later....

    Quote Originally Posted by WMack4Bama View Post
    Chris Bonds.

    Great character guy. He came here very heavily recruited. Had a leg injury toward the end of high school. But he's been a great teammate here. He still has at least one year of eligibility left, but if you pay attention during the game, he's the guy wearing #93 and with probably the cleanest uniform of any of our players and he's holding up signs to call plays in. Seems as if he's already on the path to coaching.

    And as it is, the best coaches most times are guys who weren't the superstars (i.e. Coach Bryant being NFL HoFer's Don Hutson's teammate and Coach Saban being NFL HoFer's). For several reasons....the ones with the talent can use their God given ability to compensate for mistakes. The ones that aren't as talented have to learn ALL the right things in order to be successful. The superstars often don't have the patience for the underachievers or for those that don't work as hard as they did (reference Magic Johnson's failure as a head coach of the Lakers, Mike Singletary's failure in San Francisco, and Steve Spurrier's notorious impatiences with his QBs over the years), but the ones who weren't as awfully talented can understand the plight of those who aren't as talented.

    So that's how you can get the Nick Sabans and Les Mileses of the world. Most of the great coaches were probably scout team type players, giving them time to absorb a LOT of knowledge while helping to prepare their teammates for competition.
    Great points.

    I really, really hope Singletary gets another shot. I love that guy.
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    Re: Former Players That May Get into Coaching Later....

    Quote Originally Posted by WMack4Bama View Post
    The superstars often don't have the patience for the underachievers or for those that don't work as hard as they did (reference Magic Johnson's failure as a head coach of the Lakers, Mike Singletary's failure in San Francisco, and Steve Spurrier's notorious impatiences with his QBs over the years), but the ones who weren't as awfully talented can understand the plight of those who aren't as talented.
    See: Anything related to Michael Jordan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedStar View Post
    I really, really hope Singletary gets another shot. I love that guy.
    Seems to me that he'd be a hell of an assistant coach. Could you imagine him coaching LB at UA? I'm perfectly happy with our coaching staff, don't get me wrong, but he'd probably be a hell of a coach if his job was to teach what he knew about defense. I actually think he's the exception to WMack's list - an ultrahard worker with relatively good talent. I think the problem was deeper than simply him expecting too much from his players. It's a lot different to be a great team-manager and person-manager than to teach a craft. Saban's craft is DB, but clearly he has amazing skills with regards to teaching discipline and motivation.

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    Re: Former Players That May Get into Coaching Later....

    Quote Originally Posted by RedStar View Post
    Great points.

    I really, really hope Singletary gets another shot. I love that guy.
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    Seems to me that he'd be a hell of an assistant coach. Could you imagine him coaching LB at UA? I'm perfectly happy with our coaching staff, don't get me wrong, but he'd probably be a hell of a coach if his job was to teach what he knew about defense. I actually think he's the exception to WMack's list - an ultrahard worker with relatively good talent. I think the problem was deeper than simply him expecting too much from his players. It's a lot different to be a great team-manager and person-manager than to teach a craft. Saban's craft is DB, but clearly he has amazing skills with regards to teaching discipline and motivation.
    The issue with Coach Sing was that he jumped straight from position coach to head coach. Completely skipped the coordinator part. There's a different level of organization and decision making that goes with each step up. He simply wasn't prepared for the job. His good friend and former teammate, Leslie Frazier, hired him as an assistant with the Vikings.What's happening in San Francisco right now...his contribution is not lost on me. He instilled that toughness in them. That defensive toughness was before he left. And as a life long 49er fan, I REALLY appreciate his contribution.
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    Re: Former Players That May Get into Coaching Later....

    Musso
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    Quote Originally Posted by WMack4Bama View Post
    The issue with Coach Sing was that he jumped straight from position coach to head coach. Completely skipped the coordinator part. There's a different level of organization and decision making that goes with each step up. He simply wasn't prepared for the job. His good friend and former teammate, Leslie Frazier, hired him as an assistant with the Vikings.What's happening in San Francisco right now...his contribution is not lost on me. He instilled that toughness in them. That defensive toughness was before he left. And as a life long 49er fan, I REALLY appreciate his contribution.
    I'm DocCrimson and I approve this message... I absolutely agree, the disagreement was based on his style of play. I don't believe he was extremely talented. He was definitely talented, but not like a Ray Lewis or even a Brian Urlacher. But Singletary knew exactly what he was doing on every play, and exactly what his teammates were supposed to do. That doesn't always translate into a great HC, but I still think he's probably a heck of a coach in a mentoring situation. HC's can't be true mentors to most players, often even at their position of expertise. Too many demands.

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    Re: Former Players That May Get into Coaching Later....

    Greg McElroy for sure.
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    McElroy may have his sights set a little higher, like Senator, Governor, or Fortune 500 CEO. Wouldn't be surprised to see him do all three and coach.

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    Re: Former Players That May Get into Coaching Later....

    Quote Originally Posted by WMack4Bama View Post
    The issue with Coach Sing was that he jumped straight from position coach to head coach. Completely skipped the coordinator part. There's a different level of organization and decision making that goes with each step up. He simply wasn't prepared for the job. His good friend and former teammate, Leslie Frazier, hired him as an assistant with the Vikings.What's happening in San Francisco right now...his contribution is not lost on me. He instilled that toughness in them. That defensive toughness was before he left. And as a life long 49er fan, I REALLY appreciate his contribution.
    I also don't think he was the greatest fit for the NFL. But then again, I didn't think Harbaugh would be a great NFL fit either. Both are too discipline oriented for most NFL guys. And I do think Harbaugh is benefiting from what Singletary brought to the organization. It was kind of the perfect storm for the 49ers. With his discipline, drive and toughness, I think Singletary would be a heck of a college coach and I really hope to see him get another shot.
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