A: Alabama is already in the SEC.
B: Three of Alabama's FBS programs are football welfare programs that only came to be at this level after the 85 scholarship limit. This is not the case for Oklahoma's two programs.
C: Why in the heck would any Alabama fans want another Alabama in the conference?
UNC is on the list twice and Virginia three times. Oklahoma is on the list eight times.
I'm not buying that UNC basketball is worth more than OU football. Football revenue dwarfs basketball revenue. The 20 biggest money makers in college sports: http://www.businessinsider.com/these...rs-2012-1?op=1
Are there any highly rated basketball games before the NCAA Tournament?
If you Google "which college football program has the largest fan base?" I think you'll be surprised. It's not Bama, but it's not Notre Dame either!
I agree that North Carolina and Virginia are better recruiting areas than Oklahoma. I'm not sure of the relevance of OU not being able to make a decision. They play in a league owned by Texas and have no more choice than aTm had when in the Big 12.
Merry Christmas to all. Roll Tide.
Demographics and economics suggest that if the SEC was to expand to 16 teams, it would most likely look in southern and/or coastal regions, since that is where most of the population (and economic activity) is moving. While there is a "gentlemen's agreement that the conference will not take a school from a state that already has an SEC program, that might have to be set aside in the face of reality.
Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech, North Carolina and North Carolina State would be the most attractive candidates because of rapidly growing population centers in those states, along with more rapid economic growth and greater TV markets.
I'm not saying that smart business decisions are driving any future expansion. It's just that if they do look to expand again, they'll take a hard look at the patterns and the data and maybe the "gentlemen's agreement" goes the way of the Big East.
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I've looked up numbers, and North Carolina's tier 3 revenue exceeds Alabama's, and of the disclosed schools was #1. Tier three is what would become SEC Network content. The trick is that basketball has more tier three games, so if you are as high profile as North Carolina's basketball program you offer up a lot of great network content. On top of that, they are in a much larger state, so they can bring in much more in subscriber revenue. Basically, they would be the best content provider and additionally they would bring in one of the largest subscriber bases.
That leads into CullmanTide's point. The SEC could benefit from a basketball brand without upsetting anything. They are lacking in national basketball brands and UNC would really drive up interest. This means when it comes time to negotiate broadcast and cable deals they would still be adding because not only do they bring in a larger regional footprint, but they make the SEC basketball games more valuable. So, when you add it all together it isn't just that North Carolina is more valuable to a network, it's that they are much more valuable to the SEC. The truth is for the existing SEC programs, Oklahoma could be a net drain. They could damage existing football brands, and drain football talent. North Carolina? There are plenty of recruits, they are highly unlikely to damage existing brands, they would help the network, broadcast deals, etc...
Notre Dame is a different equation (and even more unrealistic), because of a few factors. They are one of the few football powers out there that I think could actually improve the SEC's welfare. Otherwise, basketball schools are the way to go. Can you imagine the lunacy of a playoff with automatic entrants from four super-conferences and the SEC having half of the top programs? The other conferences would be giggling their way to a playoff, and the SEC would be happy it was automatic at all or else their brutal schedule might create a mess of 3 and 4 loss teams.
B. Oklahoma has three FBS teams. (Tulsa).
C. I like challenges. Why do you want another crappy football program? You keep pushing for Notre Dame, wouldn't they be a tough opponent every year as well?
To be honest, I was happy at 12 and really don't want anyone else. I don't see UNC being the financial bonanza you do as TV sets there are divided between more than two schools.
I don't want them to lose at all. But I'd rather see them play Oklahoma than North Carolina. Why do you want the basketball team to lose more often?
So it's the whole, I loved the Georgia game and want every game to be like that, huh? Entertainment value fans?
Look, it's pretty simple. The more games like that, the more games Alabama loses. The more games like that, the more injuries. That's all there is to it. I understand the entertainment value, but I could care less. I'd love Alabama to win every game, by a huge blowout and every game to be boring as heck. That's because my interest as a fan is not in being entertained.
Sure, put Oklahoma, Virginia Tech, Texas, and Florida St, on the schedule. They'll fit. And enjoy watching Alabama never go to the national championship game. But, on the bright side you'll enjoy watching the train wreck take place...
Just don't complain if we miss the playoff due to a weak strength of schedule.