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    Re: Saban: We're not running away from Teo

    I got a notification asking me to post again, so here goes.

    A couple of things happened before Taylor crossed the goal line.

    The play was blown dead. Which is why a couple of our players - including T'eo - stopped playing and started celebrating.

    Then Taylor's elbow hit the ground.

    Then he crossed the goal line.

    But ESPN gets more hits by showing a two-second clip making it look like he scored than by showing the entire play from multiple angles that show that both the play was dead and he was down.

    The Pitt game was not the first time we had two players with the same number on the field. We need to stop doing that. It may not work again.

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    Re: Saban: We're not running away from Teo

    Quote Originally Posted by ND1976 View Post
    I got a notification asking me to post again, so here goes.

    A couple of things happened before Taylor crossed the goal line.

    The play was blown dead. Which is why a couple of our players - including T'eo - stopped playing and started celebrating.

    Then Taylor's elbow hit the ground.

    Then he crossed the goal line.

    But ESPN gets more hits by showing a two-second clip making it look like he scored than by showing the entire play from multiple angles that show that both the play was dead and he was down.

    The Pitt game was not the first time we had two players with the same number on the field. We need to stop doing that. It may not work again.
    Even the NotreDame Broadcasting Collaboration team of Tom Hammond and Mike Mayock lauded Taylor for continuing to work, and you could hear Mayock's voice trail as he realized it could easily be called a TD on review.

    I know, I just watched it last night.

    Also, Stanford had a big 4th quarter run set up, when officials stopped the play - due to a "Whistle from the stands"

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    Re: Saban: We're not running away from Teo

    The whistle blew.

    The play was dead.

    The game was over.

    Really.

    Mayock went to Boston College and is the opposite of a homer for ND.

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    Re: Saban: We're not running away from Teo

    Quote Originally Posted by ND1976 View Post
    The whistle blew.

    The play was dead.

    The game was over.

    Really.

    Mayock went to Boston College and is the opposite of a homer for ND.
    Actually, all I saw on TV were the announcers analyzing the play, all the way to the point Taylor reached the ball to the stripe.....................

    They never said anything about a "Whistle"

    Nor did the official, who after a lengthy look, said the ruling "Stands"



    If you want to be condescending, at least be correct

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    Re: Saban: We're not running away from Teo

    I love this thread! It is so informative. I also saw that game last night and his legs never stopped churning. The play wasn't dead, but I understand what you say about it would have only tied the game not won it.

    I was really impressed with ND's defense and I am interested in seeing how we fare running the ball against ND.

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    Re: Saban: We're not running away from Teo

    Quote Originally Posted by ND_Justin View Post
    Te'o is about 20 pounds bigger than Jarvis Jones... they are completely different players. Jarvis Jones is a much better pass rusher, and is asked to do that on a regular basis... The Notre Dame scheme is much different, as it asks Te'o to run stuff and cover in space. Notre Dame's defense is much more like an SEC defense than Georgia is. All of Notre Dame's LB's are over 250 lbs and every defensive line starter is over 300 lbs. The Notre Dame plan will be to stuff the run and to limit the big pass plays. Will they be able to do this? I'm not sure, but that is the design of the defense, and it has been pretty successful all year.
    Actually typical SEC defenses have smaller linebackers and ends because they focus on speed so much. Alabama is the exception rather than the rule in that regard.

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    Re: Saban: We're not running away from Teo

    Quote Originally Posted by JBama_in_PCOLA View Post
    ND in Death Valley versus LSU. Who wins?!
    LSU. very few teams would have walk out of Death Valley with a win that night.
    Last edited by sanjosecrimson; December 27th, 2012 at 12:14 AM.

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    Re: Saban: We're not running away from Teo

    Quote Originally Posted by TrueGritnPluck View Post
    Actually, all I saw on TV were the announcers analyzing the play, all the way to the point Taylor reached the ball to the stripe.....................

    They never said anything about a "Whistle"

    Nor did the official, who after a lengthy look, said the ruling "Stands"



    If you want to be condescending, at least be correct
    looks like he scored on 2nd down to me... he looked down on 4th tho.

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    Re: Saban: We're not running away from Teo

    Not to mention that the entire team took their helmets off and ran onto the field before it was official and the review was completed. In Gary D's book thats a penalty, Stanford gets a first down.

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    Saban: We're not running away from Teo

    Quote Originally Posted by sanjosecrimson View Post
    LSU. very few teams would have walk out of Death Valley with a win that night.
    I know this one is for all the marbles, but if they aren't as good as LSU is I just don't see how it will be close. Barring mistakes by Bama, I see a route.
    ROLL TIDE!

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    Re: Saban: We're not running away from Teo

    Quote Originally Posted by JBama_in_PCOLA View Post
    I know this one is for all the marbles, but if they aren't as good as LSU is I just don't see how it will be close. Barring mistakes by Bama, I see a route.
    A route to a rout?

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    Re: Saban: We're not running away from Teo

    Quote Originally Posted by JBama_in_PCOLA View Post
    I know this one is for all the marbles, but if they aren't as good as LSU is I just don't see how it will be close. Barring mistakes by Bama, I see a route.
    agreed. LSU Dline and depth is much better than ND and on par with Bama. LSU secondary is among the best in the nation. the LBs are about even.

    LSU running game is 2nd only to Bama. their depth is better than Bama due to our recent injuries. next season, barring injuries Bama RB depth will be unreal. LSU WRs are more elite than ND. QBs are a wash with Mett having inconsistency as his weakness and being a statue under pressure. Golson is more mobile and can move the chains with his feet.

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    Re: Saban: We're not running away from Teo

    Took a hiatus from the board over Christmas, so I'm just now posting in this thread. Please forgive several quotes in this one post.

    Quote Originally Posted by FriendlyIrish View Post
    Right, but no one has really played bend don't break. That's what we are willing to do. I easily see them bringing in another player for run D. And we will play soft on the outsides and give up flat passes to your WR's. As long as our DB's have tackled as well as they have all year (watch first half of OU), the gameplan can work.
    Chavis at LSU is known for a bend but don't break defense.

    We never give up big pass plays. We didn't give up any to D-Rob, Landry Jones, or to the two best WR's in the country. I'm not worried about big pass plays in this game. It's all if we stop the run. It will by far be the toughest game plan to execute all year. The closest is Stanford, but again, Bama is the toughest.
    Of course, you didn't give up big pass plays to the two best WRs in the country (except for that last 50+ yard pass). I doubt having their Senior QB making the passes had something to do with that, but you don't want to mention that, do you?


    Quote Originally Posted by NDGiantsKings View Post
    Hoke, Shaw, Stoops, Kiffin etc aren't stupid no one comes with the gameplan of running away from Manti. Either way the game plan of running right at Manti sounds awesome on paper until you realize Manti plays behind a stud Nose Guard who has destroyed every offensive line this year.
    Ignoring the use of the word "destroy," let me ask you this: has he faced an OL with 3 All-Americans? Or has he faced an offensive lineman that has won the Rimington and the Outland trophies?

    Quote Originally Posted by rgw View Post
    Te'o is such a threat because he is hard to get a body on because their DL is good at eating space. You'd rather try to get a guard on him than run laterally and let him move side-to-side, but Nix makes it hard to get up on him. Their offense has been a liability that has been a struggle to get across the finish line for them, but there is no smoke and mirrors on their defense. They look a lot like us: they have the right kind of personnel to run a 3-4 and make you pass effectively to win. Their LB corp is basically like our own: one star (Mosley and Te'o) and a bunch of role guys (at this juncture of their careers). Their secondary has been the point of concern for each fanbase.

    Personally, I think Te'o gets too much credit because their down linemen are really the stars of this defense. Te'o on his own would just be a guy getting a lot of tackles...with their linemen clogging things up, he's allowed to take risks and come through clean to the ball carrier. The story of the game will be how we handle their linemen. If we can free up an interior guy to get a hat on Te'o, we will move the ball. If their linemen don't let guys get free to the second level...we're in for one of those close games where their offense has pulled a rabbit out of their hat in the fourth quarter.
    His credit/praise comes from his story. He plays for ND. His girlfriend and grandmother both died. He's a mormon playing at ND. It's the perfect media storm.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zedman View Post
    The matchups between the Alabama receivers and ND's defensive secondary are very interesting. I really don't know how to read it. As many on this board have pointed out - the corners and safeties are supposed to be ND's weakness. However, they have played well all year and developed along quite nicely. They are definitely young. Russell is a true freshman - but he plays like a veteran. He drew a PI call on Stills in the OU game that was quite saavy. In addition, he was the one that committed two PIs in a row against Lee in the USC game that also showed some football intelligence. He wasn't going to give up the TD pass and knew that a PI only moved the ball a few inches closer to the goaline.
    ND was fortunate neither of those PIs led to a TD. Did the Freshman QB play a role in that outcome? Possibly. Have to consider how a 2-year starter, National Champion, All-American QB handles those 15 yard penalties compared to a first time starter.

    The common description of the defense is "bend but don't break." LSU bent several times in 2011 and finally broke in New Orleans. Not many teams can't bend without breaking when bent several times.
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