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    Re: Question For The Coach Bryant Era Fans (About Moving Jobs)

    Coach Bryant had to deal with other coaches telling recruits and their parents he was going to retire throughout the 70's. They used age against him and that will happen with Coach Saban more often the longer he stays.

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    Re: Question For The Coach Bryant Era Fans (About Moving Jobs)

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    Coach Bryant had to deal with other coaches telling recruits and their parents he was going to retire throughout the 70's. They used age against him and that will happen with Coach Saban more often the longer he stays.
    I'm sure that Dye never used this tactic against us when he took over for the boogs during Bear's last two years. Yeah, right.

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    Re: Question For The Coach Bryant Era Fans (About Moving Jobs)

    The story going around about Coach Bryant and Miami, as he was also the AD the only way he would take the Miami job was that he could talk Royal or McKay into taking the Alabama job. He couldn't so he didn't go.
    " If you stick your head above the crowd, you're going to have people trying to knock it off." -Coach Paul Bryant

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    Re: Question For The Coach Bryant Era Fans (About Moving Jobs)

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    The story going around about Coach Bryant and Miami, as he was also the AD the only way he would take the Miami job was that he could talk Royal or McKay into taking the Alabama job. He couldn't so he didn't go.
    Yes I do remember this being part of it. He wouldn't leave without someone of his stature taking over; hence Royal or McKay who happened also to be his good friends.

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    Re: Question For The Coach Bryant Era Fans (About Moving Jobs)

    Never heard that part. Would have been interesting to see how that worked out.

    Sad to say, I doubt Bryant would have done any better than McKay in Tampa. His health was declining in the late 1970s and losing may have made his drinking even worse.

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    Re: Question For The Coach Bryant Era Fans (About Moving Jobs)

    I came across this today called "The Bear: The Life and Times of Paul 'Bear' Bryant."

    http://books.google.com/books?id=LTg...lphins&f=false

    It tells (starting on page 161, check if you have a free preview) that Bryant was talking in a bar in New Orleans days before the 1980 Sugar Bowl and going over what happened. Bryant says the Atlanta Falcons wanted him in 1966, and he told them he wasn't staying in any town with Furman Bisher. He then went on to observe that he packed a lunch every time he went to Atlanta just to keep from spending money in their local economy. He also says he was offered a chance to "buy into" the Jets, but the Jets told him to invest his money in the Miami Dolphins.

    Bryant then says that in 1969 he had a serious offer from Joe Robbie - so serious the contract was already drawn up and CPB conferred with Joe Namath for information on each of the Dolphins players. Bryant then says the school President (Mathews) was all behind him going, but wanted him to find a better replacement for himself - which meant he had to stay at Alabama. It's sort of a joke but also serious, and Bryant then goes on to say that the Dolphins did all right with Shula at the helm.


    (Some of you might be interested in his follow-up comments that he foresees the 1980 team as being talented but undisicplined).
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    Re: Question For The Coach Bryant Era Fans (About Moving Jobs)

    I grew up in Tuscaloosa, lived there for a lot of the glory years --1959 to 1985, with a couple of hiatuses -- and am told on good authority that he actually accepted the Dolphins job, then backed out for reasons cited above.

    I remember lots of rumors about a lot of stuff, mainly having to do with political office. But little or nothing about leaving for another college or pro job.

    A few possible reasons for that are:
    1. No Internet, and only three major television outlets. For all practical purposes, talk radio didn't exist. Hard to conceive now, but there just wasn't as much information out there.

    2. Because there weren't as many outlets, there weren't as many braying voices trying to attract a part of an audience with an increasingly short attention span. So incendiary stories with shaky bases just didn't happen nearly so much (Furman Bisher / SEP exception noted).

    3. Again, hard to imagine now, but journalists of that day really truly didn't write everything they knew. They respected a professional relationship, and didn't betray confidences. I'm sure Bryant had offers that never made it into the public sphere.

    4. The money wasn't as great, even allowing for inflation. So there wasn't as much incentive to leave. Your financial position just wouldn't be all that stinkin' much better.

    5. It was more about the wins and losses, and the chance to win championships. And where do you have a better hence to win championships than Tuscaloosa?

    In short, it was just a different day and time, with different ways and ethics around the dissemination of sensitive information.
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    Re: Question For The Coach Bryant Era Fans (About Moving Jobs)

    Quote Originally Posted by selmaborntidefan View Post
    Bryant then goes on to say that the Dolphins did all right with Shula at the helm.
    Better than we did.

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    Re: Question For The Coach Bryant Era Fans (About Moving Jobs)

    This is the accurate post on Coach Bryant,other than this,he was never interested in leaving Bama.
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    Re: Question For The Coach Bryant Era Fans (About Moving Jobs)

    Quote Originally Posted by selmaborntidefan View Post
    I came across this today called "The Bear: The Life and Times of Paul 'Bear' Bryant."

    http://books.google.com/books?id=LTg...lphins&f=false

    It tells (starting on page 161, check if you have a free preview) that Bryant was talking in a bar in New Orleans days before the 1980 Sugar Bowl and going over what happened. Bryant says the Atlanta Falcons wanted him in 1966, and he told them he wasn't staying in any town with Furman Bisher. He then went on to observe that he packed a lunch every time he went to Atlanta just to keep from spending money in their local economy. He also says he was offered a chance to "buy into" the Jets, but the Jets told him to invest his money in the Miami Dolphins.

    Bryant then says that in 1969 he had a serious offer from Joe Robbie - so serious the contract was already drawn up and CPB conferred with Joe Namath for information on each of the Dolphins players. Bryant then says the school President (Mathews) was all behind him going, but wanted him to find a better replacement for himself - which meant he had to stay at Alabama. It's sort of a joke but also serious, and Bryant then goes on to say that the Dolphins did all right with Shula at the helm.


    (Some of you might be interested in his follow-up comments that he foresees the 1980 team as being talented but undisicplined).
    I think you might be talking about CPB's autobiography written with John Underwood, the great writer from Sports Illustrated called Bear: The Hard Life and Good Times of Alabama's Coach. It's a terrific and definitive book, candid and provocative and Underwood does a masterful job of writing in CPB's voice. The Miami Dolphins were the only team, according to the Coach, that almost convinced him to leave the Capstone. Namath encouraged him. The Dolphins were up and coming with talented young players like Bob Griese, Larry Czonka and Nick Buoniconti and Joe Robbie wanted to pay him a lot of money.

    Grab a copy of this book if you want to learn about the Bryant years from the Coaches mouth.

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    Re: Question For The Coach Bryant Era Fans (About Moving Jobs)

    Quote Originally Posted by Tidetwin View Post
    I think you might be talking about CPB's autobiography written with John Underwood, the great writer from Sports Illustrated called Bear: The Hard Life and Good Times of Alabama's Coach. It's a terrific and definitive book, candid and provocative and Underwood does a masterful job of writing in CPB's voice. The Miami Dolphins were the only team, according to the Coach, that almost convinced him to leave the Capstone. Namath encouraged him. The Dolphins were up and coming with talented young players like Bob Griese, Larry Czonka and Nick Buoniconti and Joe Robbie wanted to pay him a lot of money.

    Grab a copy of this book if you want to learn about the Bryant years from the Coaches mouth.
    This book is must reading for EVERY Tide fan of every generation. Underwood was a great writer and it's a terrific well written autobiography. I know this dates me but my wife went to one of Bear's book signings when it first came out and got me an autographed copy (for Christmas as I remember). A great gift that I'll always cherish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selmaborntidefan View Post
    I came across this today called "The Bear: The Life and Times of Paul 'Bear' Bryant."

    http://books.google.com/books?id=LTg...lphins&f=false
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    Does not matter much, but the cover of that book says The Bear: The Legendary Life of Coach Paul "Bear" Bryant. That looks like a good book and not overly long at about 190 pages long.

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    Re: Question For The Coach Bryant Era Fans (About Moving Jobs)

    I listened to the rumors of Coach Bryant going to retire...
    Coach Bryant going to the Dallas Cowboys...
    Coach Bryant going to the Miami Dolphins...

    Just like today rumors link Coach Saban to every conceivable opening.
    Many of these rumors are started and hyped by recruiting rivals.
    Rumors are started by fans of the Pro teams that want something to happen.

    I view these rumors as a sign of our success.
    (Notice there are no rumors of Chizik going to Cleveland...)

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