Another CPB vs CNS comparison?
Not gonna read through the "ARTICLE" and all posts but I'll say this, again.
Having been born the year CPB came to Bama I've seen both and it's an Apples and Oranges scenario. Different era's and circumstances. I'm grateful for both but which one is greater than the other is debatable and largely opinionated.
There is no way to make a valid comparison between CPB and CNS.
They represent the best of the best in different era's.
They coached/coach under different rules, and limitations.
Both coaches were/are innovators, and motivators.
Both coaches believed/believe that Defense wins games.
I don't have to argue who was/is best.
We have been and are currently blessed with the very best coaches.
That's enough for me.
Coach Bryant did it through 2 decades with a lull in between. Coach Saban could do this if he had started coaching at Bama in his 40's. He could match coach Bryant's 1st decade if he continues. As far as SEC Championships, he has a ways to go.
Last edited by CapstoneTider; December 28th, 2012 at 02:21 PM.
"When it comes to history, no one stands taller than the Irish.....unless......you're the Crimson Tide.” -- Brent Musburger closing comment of the 2013 BCSCG
“I know what it takes to win. If I can sell them on what it takes to win, then we are not going to lose too many football games.” - Coach Paul Bryant and I can see Coach Nick Saban agreeing completely.
There will only be One Coach Bryant and that is it.
Coach Saban is the Best coach in all of football today in my oopinion & thank goodness he chose Alabama.
Some of us have some reading to do you need to understand what CPB meant to the state not just the University. He offered dignity & class where it was hard to find sometimes.
Talk to people like Wibur Jackson, Sylevster Croom what Coach Bryant meant to them.
CNS thankfully will never get the same situations as Coach had to deal with, buthe has restored respect to the University. No one will try the stuff 10rc did after Bryant as long as CNS is here.
CNS has quite a few years to go to approach CPB
Some random thoughts:
I never thought of Bryant as that much of an innovator. I thought of him as a perfector of other people's innovation, particularly on offense.
He was also a great at adapting his approach to the times, winning big with single wing, pro style passing, and wishbone. He may have even run the Notre Dame box, though I can't say that for sure.
As others have already stated, Saban won't have the time to go through a lull, then a rebirth with a decade of success on the other end.
Bryant did have an effect on the whole state separate and apart from football. But a lot of that was the times in which he coached. Thrust into the same social upheaval, I think Saban would shine as well. But for all our sakes, I hope that isn't necessary.
Because of scholarship limitations and their fallout, I think Saban's golden era is more impressive than either of Bryant's, taken individually. Bryant, however, did it twice, over a period of time that Saban probably won't have. Plus, he covered years where there were huge changes to the game, brought on primarily by the emergence of the black athlete.
This is another aspect of his ability to adapt, yet stay true to his core philosophies of running, stopping the run, and sound special teams.
Those of us who were fortunate enough to have seen both in their prime, and been old enough to appreciate what we were seeing are lucky indeed.
Last edited by 4Q Basket Case; December 28th, 2012 at 02:46 PM.
You can't reason a man out of a position he didn't reason himself into.
I mean you could never replace the Bear! He help build the tradition and established Alabama as a National power. But, I will go as far to say that Saban is this generation's Bear, for people like me that wasn't alive in the 70s.
OK, I'm older than many on this board, so I'm biased toward Coach Bryant. I can say one thing with certainty: Coach Saban had MUCH more to work with when he came to Alabama than Coach Bryant did.
That said, I believe Coach Saban to be every bit as good a coach of football as Coach Bryant was. He probably won't ever be as good a molder of men. I just wish he would let a little more of his off-field personality show through.
"And the roses in this grand old stadium are once again Crimson." -- Eli Gold, 1/7/10
"ZERO DOUBT" -- Tuscaloosa News Headline 1/10/12
CPB 6 NC CNS 3 NC (CPB 24 bowl games, 14 conference titles - Not sure how many CNS has)
When that score equals out we can have that discussion.
“What happened yesterday is history. What happens tomorrow is a mystery. What we do today makes a difference - the precious present moment.”
Coach Nick Saban.
CNS talk of the process sounds like an extension of the very principle that CPB often spoke of.
Be Good Or Be Gone