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    Re: Orange Bowl rep to NIU: We didn't even want you here

    Quote Originally Posted by CullmanTide View Post
    You injected Alabama into the discussion.
    This is an Alabama board, right? I was simply adding perspective. It was lost on you guys, so I failed.

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    Re: Orange Bowl rep to NIU: We didn't even want you here

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    I never said that Alabama was lucky, so please stop with that stuff. My posts and my feelings are consistent - Alabama is the best team, has the best coaching staff, and has the best program in America right now. Don't make me out to be something that I am not just because we disagree about this subject.
    I agree NIU shouldn't be ridiculed for being in their BCS game. The system put them there, just like we got to the NC game this year and last as trh best one loss team. the rules of non-automatic qualifiers put them there.They are a better team than Wisconsin or Louisville. Don't worry if one or two try to call u out. You've posted long enough for us to know that you present a pretty fair perspective. My gripe with the BCS is limiting the amount of teams from one conference; we are in the middle of a great run for our conference and I see it continuing for a while, so this may sound biased,but I'd rather see top teams against other top teams in the "big" bowl games, even if that means a second SEC team in the future gets left out to a third team from the "power" conference in 10 years. I just want to see good football and I think OU or uga would've created a better game, but NIU may prove me wrong.

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    Re: Orange Bowl rep to NIU: We didn't even want you here

    Clearly the Orange Bowl Committee was stuck with NIU so they have to make the best of it. Entice viewers by playing up the David-vs-Goliath perspective.

    As for me, I'll be pulling for Goliath. A win - or even a close game by NIU - will give credence to demands that the FBS anklebiters be guaranteed seats at the large-payout bowl table. In this scenario, there will likely be a year when Alabama is on the outside looking in while a CUSA or similar team (UAB anyone? Troy maybe?) is getting the big payout. I'm too much of a Bama homer to desire any outcome that could work to the detriment of (1) Alabama; and (2) other SEC schools.

    Alabama holds the all-time record for margin of bowl victory. In the 1950s Bama beat Syracuse by something like 66-6 in the... um... Orange Bowl, I think. I'm OK with it if FSU establishes a new bowl victory record. (Not that I think it'll happen...)

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    Orange Bowl rep to NIU: We didn't even want you here

    NIU is in because they are the highest-ranked non-AQ conference champ AND are ranked higher than two AQ conference champs - Wisconsin and Louisville. The BCS selection rules stipulate that such a team get an at-large berth. Blame the Big East and Big 10, Congress, and even the BCS powers that be (including the bowl committees), but NIU is blameless and, under the rules, deserving; and assuming the report is true, the Orange Bowl rep is a classless clown who, I hope, will no longer be an Orange Bowl rep after this display.

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    Re: Orange Bowl rep to NIU: We didn't even want you here

    Quote Originally Posted by B1GTide View Post
    This is an Alabama board, right? I was simply adding perspective. It was lost on you guys, so I failed.

    Epically.
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    Re: Orange Bowl rep to NIU: We didn't even want you here

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    I agree NIU shouldn't be ridiculed for being in their BCS game. The system put them there, just like we got to the NC game this year and last as trh best one loss team. the rules of non-automatic qualifiers put them there.They are a better team than Wisconsin or Louisville. Don't worry if one or two try to call u out. You've posted long enough for us to know that you present a pretty fair perspective. My gripe with the BCS is limiting the amount of teams from one conference; we are in the middle of a great run for our conference and I see it continuing for a while, so this may sound biased,but I'd rather see top teams against other top teams in the "big" bowl games, even if that means a second SEC team in the future gets left out to a third team from the "power" conference in 10 years. I just want to see good football and I think OU or uga would've created a better game, but NIU may prove me wrong.
    The 2 team rule was one of those conditions everyone probably had to agree upon but no one really liked. No conference was going to let the possibility of another conference get multiple teams past 2 into the equation.
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    Re: Orange Bowl rep to NIU: We didn't even want you here

    I will definitely not jump on the "Go NIU" wagon. I hate seeing them in a major bowl the same as I hated seeing past TCU/Boise St. matchups. Why not FSU/UF or FSU/UGA? That is more impressive then a MAC win streak, right? It is a lose/lose for FSU. If they win, they really have not proven anything, they have just done what they are supposed to do. If wanting to see the best of the best play in major bowls makes me a college football elitist... Well, then, I guess I am a football elitist.

    However, none of this changes anything. I know a great coach who would say, "It is what it is..." So here is hoping for a good game to watch, at least.

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    Re: Orange Bowl rep to NIU: We didn't even want you here

    I'm pulling for FSU in this one.The more teams like NIU get thrashed in these games the more likely in the future we will get to see the teams like Georgia and South Carolina that deserve BCS games.Really a no win situation for the Noles though.

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    Re: Orange Bowl rep to NIU: We didn't even want you here

    I hope the bowl rep gets vindicated but he likely just stoked the fires...NIU will be playing like the galaxy's fate rests on their performance when nobody will care if they win or lose in a week or two. Who talks about Utah anymore besides butthurt SEC rivals?

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    Re: Orange Bowl rep to NIU: We didn't even want you here

    Quote Originally Posted by jps1983 View Post
    I agree NIU shouldn't be ridiculed for being in their BCS game. The system put them there, just like we got to the NC game this year and last as trh best one loss team. the rules of non-automatic qualifiers put them there.They are a better team than Wisconsin or Louisville. Don't worry if one or two try to call u out. You've posted long enough for us to know that you present a pretty fair perspective.
    How can you know this? NIU played a MAC schedule and lost to 4-8 Iowa. Do you seriously think that Wisconsin or Louisville would have lost to Iowa and not gone undefeated against NIU's remaining schedule?

    Here's NIU's schedule after Iowa: Tennessee-Martin, Army, Kansas, Central Michigan, Ball State, Buffalo, Akron, Western Michigan, UMass, Toledo, Eastern Michigan, Kent State.

    I can't see Wisconsin or Louisville doing anything but going undefeated against that schedule.
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    Re: Orange Bowl rep to NIU: We didn't even want you here

    Don't think of it as rooting for NIU....think of it as rooting against FSU.
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    Re: Orange Bowl rep to NIU: We didn't even want you here

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    They deserve to be there as much as Alabama deserves to be in the BCSCG. They followed the exact same set of rules.
    Yes, NIU deserves to be in the Orange Bowl according to contractual requirements, but win or lose, that's the only reason NIU deserves to be in the game.
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    Re: Orange Bowl rep to NIU: We didn't even want you here

    I'm rooting for NIU for no other reason than it would tick a bunch of people off.

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