Same with the Rose Bowl and Wisconsin.
Wisconsin, at least, has some pedigree.
Same with the Rose Bowl and Wisconsin.
Only the same if you are equating playing the Big 10+2 -- with playing in the MAC -- if you are making that comparison -- I'll agree.Same with the Rose Bowl and Wisconsin.
I don't think deserve it. Period. Oklahoma and Georgia should be in bcs games not Louisville and niu. Bcs games should be for top ten teams in my opinion.NIU deserves to be there, period.
Go Huskies.
Incredibly hard to follow the logic of "impossible to make money" when the Orange Bowl committee is also getting the bank from the Alabama/Notre Dame game.The Orange Bowl wants to make money and NIU being in the game is going to make that almost impossible. I agree that NIU followed the rules that were set up, but it is easy to see how the Orange Bowl is disapointed that they were the bowl that got stuck with them.
The rules are changing anyway, but the Big East should have been the entity that was penalized for this, not the Orange Bowl.
Why are we acting like this is some new concept? The BCS rules were NEVER designed to place the top 8/10/etc. teams in the remaining bowls. Even before the major conferences let the middle ones in to keep from getting increased scrutiny, it was never designed that way.I'm confused as to how Wisconsin being in the Rose Bowl justifies Northern Illinois's inclusion in the Orange Bowl. Did you ever consider that neither one deserves to be there? You seem to be arguing that since Northern Illinois didn't do anything wrong, they deserve to be in one of the four top bowls. No one here is saying they broke the rules. But NIU clearly is not one of the top 10 teams in the country. No one thinks that. You don't think that. That's why they don't deserve to be there. The rules governing the BCS are foolish and reward mediocrity.
How is that being a victim?The biggest victim of the BCS rules is Florida. Ranked number 3 and being forced to play #21 Louisville.
THISI'm confused as to how Wisconsin being in the Rose Bowl justifies Northern Illinois's inclusion in the Orange Bowl. Did you ever consider that neither one deserves to be there? You seem to be arguing that since Northern Illinois didn't do anything wrong, they deserve to be in one of the four top bowls. No one here is saying they broke the rules. But NIU clearly is not one of the top 10 teams in the country. No one thinks that. You don't think that. That's why they don't deserve to be there. The rules governing the BCS are foolish and reward mediocrity.
You are putting words in my mouth (or in my posts). I am not justifying the one with the other - simply pointing out that this system put several very bad teams in BCS bowls this year. Everyone is focused on NIU. That is absurd. They had a better season, and are ranked significantly higher than the Big East or B1G representative. The travesty is not that NIU made it, but that Louisville and Wisconsin made it.I'm confused as to how Wisconsin being in the Rose Bowl justifies Northern Illinois's inclusion in the Orange Bowl. Did you ever consider that neither one deserves to be there? You seem to be arguing that since Northern Illinois didn't do anything wrong, they deserve to be in one of the four top bowls. No one here is saying they broke the rules. But NIU clearly is not one of the top 10 teams in the country. No one thinks that. You don't think that. That's why they don't deserve to be there. The rules governing the BCS are foolish and reward mediocrity.
Players prefer competing against the best but I guess some don't understand that.How is that being a victim?
"The system" didn't put Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl. The transgressions of Ohio St. and Penn St. did.You are putting words in my mouth (or in my posts). I am not justifying the one with the other - simply pointing out that this system put several very bad teams in BCS bowls this year. Everyone is focused on NIU. That is absurd. They had a better season, and are ranked significantly higher than the Big East or B1G representative. The travesty is not that NIU made it, but that Louisville and Wisconsin made it.
I seriously doubt if you were to ask any player on Florida's team... they'd say they were victims because they're having to play Louisville. They might not like the fact they're in the Sugar Bowl (a valid complaint), but the concept of them being victims is laughable.Players prefer competing against the best but I guess some don't understand that.
So you blame the BCS for letting in one team with which you disagree, but give it a pass with the other two? Okay."The system" didn't put Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl. The transgressions of Ohio St. and Penn St. did.
Then they should have won one more game. Simple fix.He's just saying they are victims of a system that made them play Louisville when they are the #3 team in the nation. Most competitors I know want to play the best.
So how can you say they would not have rather played a top team or their fans paid to see a better game?I seriously doubt if you were to ask any player on Florida's team... they'd say they were victims because they're having to play Louisville. They might not like the fact they're in the Sugar Bowl (a valid complaint), but the concept of them being victims is laughable.
Anything short of the BCS Championship game was going to be a let-down for Florida fans. After that, well, they get what they get.So how can you say they would not have rather played a top team or their fans paid to see a better game?
So you blame the BCS for letting in one team with which you disagree, but give it a pass with the other two? Okay.[/QUOTE Several teams shouldn't have been in the BCS. I'm not giving them a pass. Those are your words not mine.
I'm saying the BCS was designed for that very purpose: To pit #1 and #2 against each other. You can have all the impressions about the system you want, but the fact remains it was never designed to do anything past getting the top two teams together.Wait, so only the national championship should actually have the best teams in it? And people wonder why the bowl matchups are so bad. I fail to understand how Florida losing a game means that they shouldn't play a better team in the Sugar Bowl. They earned a Sugar Bowl matchup, and they deserve that matchup to be against a quality opponent.