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    Re: Self Scout - How would you attack Alabama?

    Quote Originally Posted by NDinNYC2 View Post
    Early passing to open up with the run is a common theme from fans on both sides and analysts as well. If it's that obvious to us, it must be to Saban and Kelly as well. Having said that, I still think it makes sense. It may just boil down to whether or not Golson can be as accurate as he'll need to be to make that work.
    Yeah, the way a team attacks is it that they can be two-dimensional. UGA had success because Murray could throw it well and Gurley/Marshall (mainly Gurley against us) ran it fairly effectively. We try to force third and long and try to force the offense to be one-dimensional (that's true of almost every team that plays any semblance of defense).

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    Re: Self Scout - How would you attack Alabama?

    Although I went to high school with him, use Eifert to attack Nick Perry as much as you possibly can.
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    Re: Self Scout - How would you attack Alabama?

    Quote Originally Posted by AgentAntiOrange View Post
    Boot legs and roll-outs as well as screens and draws will bring some success vs our 3rd down blitz packages but you MUST read where the blitz is coming from correctly. You must be patient and be willing to play field position.

    What you must avoid: We get an early lead on you.
    I expect to see a healthy dose of boots and roll outs by ND. Totally agree re field position. If Golsn gets greedy in the pass, he'll get picked. If gets greedy in the run, he'll get his head taken off and / or fumble.

    Turnovers killed ND last year. KILLED them. Coming into the season, Brian Kelly talked a LOT about the importance of getting his QBs to understand that he can live with a play that yields nothing (i.e. throw the ball away) but negative plays and turnovers will not be tolerated. Golson has improved along those lines as the year progressed. Will be interesting if he can maintain that because getting behind schedule could lead to turnovers while 2nd and manageable / 3rd and short will allow ND to get a lot more creative and actually attack Alabama as opposed to hanging on for dear life.

    If Bama comes out hot, I don't see ND coming back without a pile of Tide turnovers and miscues. And my guess is Saban and your QB wll be too smart / disciplined to let that happen.

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    Re: Self Scout - How would you attack Alabama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt0424 View Post
    Okay...

    Don't play bend but not break between the 20's. If you allow us to get into the redzone, we'll score. You can't rely on having the best redzone defense in the country against such an efficient offense.

    If Sunseri is in the game, he struggle in pass coverage (just watch the A&M game).
    Interesting comment re bend but don't break. I see your logic but I think that's exactly what ND will do. It is who they are. I think you sort of have to do what you've done all year, broadly, otherwise you might come out of the gate stuttering and thinking too much.

    Seen a lot of talk about Sunseri as the weak point in coverage. I wonder what ND will do to try and isolate him and what Bama will do to try and protect him.
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    Re: Self Scout - How would you attack Alabama?

    Nice try, Brian Kelly
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    Re: Self Scout - How would you attack Alabama?

    Quote Originally Posted by rgw View Post
    On offense:

    - Attack the use of man coverage with crossing patterns and deep corner routes.

    On Defense:

    - Temper the rush to contain the screen game. Keep gap integrity and don't allow short passes turn into huge gains.

    - Be aware of Cooper's alignment. He's the only deep threat currently, safety help should always be to his side.
    Crossing routes are something I hadn't thought about too much. But it makes good sense. Only problem is you need time for that to develop - ND O Line will have to allow for that.

    Bama screen game scares me to death. Really impressed with Cooper's physical skills but, even more so, his tenacity. That guy looks like he wants the ball and is willing to fight for it. I expect to see safety help sliding in his direction as well.

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    Re: Self Scout - How would you attack Alabama?

    I would try to pick out a receiver that will be covered by a linebacker and make it my go to on 1st down. Delayed draws seem to work well and on defense pick out the players on OL playing injured and double team them to get to AJ. Barret Jones is gimpy so he should be a pushover. Blitz on 2nd and long and 3rd and long right smack over the gimpy center. Piece of cake.
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    Re: Self Scout - How would you attack Alabama?

    Quote Originally Posted by NDinNYC2 View Post
    Interesting comment re bend but don't break. I see your logic but I think that's exactly what ND will do. It is who they are. I think you sort of have to do what you've done all year, broadly, otherwise you might come out of the gate stuttering and thinking too much.

    Seen a lot of talk about Sunseri as the weak point in coverage. I wonder what ND will do to try and isolate him and what Bama will do to try and protect him.
    Basically, Geno Smith has taken over his role on passing downs...
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    Re: Self Scout - How would you attack Alabama?

    Sunseri won't play much besides dimeback against 4+ WRs...and he'll be more protected by the scheme in that role. He's a better fit for the 6th DB because it is more of safety/LB hybrid. Sunseri was out of place at Star because the duties require some things a safety would do but corner-like ability to cover in man. He was about half of what the position needed and it showed against LSU and TAMU. Geno doesn't have a lot of experience but he's been on the hip of slot receivers underneath.

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    Re: Self Scout - How would you attack Alabama?

    First of all, Texas A@M's hurry up offense didn't bother us. We were flat as a pancake in the first quarter after a huge win in Baton Rouge.
    That got us behind 20-0, but in all honesty, Texas A@M could have run slow tempo QB sneaks and gotten the same result. We simply didn't show up emotionally. Once we adjusted, we pretty much shut them down the rest of the game but it was a bit too late.
    Yes, Georgia ran the hurry up at the end of the game...but we were in a prevent and killed ourselves with missed tackles.

    Now, that being said, the biggest vulnerability our defense has shown since Coach Saban's arrival has been passes to backs out of the backfield and quick passes across the middle or in the short zone to the tight end. In each case the coverage has been by a linebacker.
    Our backers are recruited and geared to stop the run and they're not the best in coverage. I'd attack that in a big way. The problem is that Coach Saban already knows this and has probably made adjustments...lol...so who knows what we'll do. I'd expect a lot of blitzes by the backers with the short coverage switching to a corner. We'll see.

    As far as attacking our offense I'd not only stack the box but I'd run blitz and pass blitz. A.J. has a tendency to lock on one receiver and he has a tendency to hold the ball too long. He is not very good when under intense pressure, but then, not many QB's are.
    The problem again however is that our offensive line is so good that, if you blitz, and one guy misses a tackle or an assignment, or blows a man to man coverage, that A.J. may end up on his butt, but one our running backs will be racing untouched to the goal line, or catching a screen a racing to the goal line, or one of many capable receivers will completely burn the secondary for a long TD pass.
    Not many people understand that we're far from one dimensional. We probably have more dimensions than most teams in the country and we are EXTREMELY hard to defend.
    Ultimately though Notre Dame has no choice but to try and stop the run first because, if they can't do that, they don't have a prayer.
    Ironically...if they do stop the run, then A.J. may pass for 400 yards and five touchdowns.

    I think Brian Kelly poses the biggest challenge Bama has faced as far as being an outstanding coach. He reminds me a lot of Saban actually. The question is, do they have the horses?

    We'll see on Monday Night and may the chips fall where they may.

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    Re: Self Scout - How would you attack Alabama?

    Quote Originally Posted by RTR91 View Post
    Although I went to high school with him, use Eifert to attack Nick Perry as much as you possibly can.
    I really think we'll see more of Ha-Ha than Nick...
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    Self Scout - How would you attack Alabama?

    Geno's emergence has been great for the secondary issues, such as Nick and Vinnie.


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    Re: Self Scout - How would you attack Alabama?

    Quote Originally Posted by gman4tide View Post
    May not, but i believe that is the recipe to beat the tide. If (big if) I had the personel, I'd go up tempo spread short passes. IMO, we don't do great vs that.
    We are missing that dominant pass rusher.
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