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    Re: Is A&M in 2013 the Arky of 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by NationalTitles15 View Post
    I don't see an Arkansas-style meltdown happening without the same kind of leadership vacuum Arkansas had.
    I frankly don't see a parallel, other than wondering if they're going to be a one-shot wonder. The whole conference has had a season to scout their tendencies, so they will do no more sneaking up on their opponents...
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    Re: Is A&M in 2013 the Arky of 2012?

    To hit on the bye week question from a few pages back. I don't think their is undue emphasis on the bye week. I think the grind of the SEC schedule makes bye weeks more important. Also, I put a lot of faith in our staff with two weeks to prepare for a team. The combination of the SEC grind and our exceptional coaching staff makes the bye week something to watch for on the schedule. Also, with the quality of coaching in the SEC top to bottom...you have to look out for your opponent's bye weeks.

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    Re: Is A&M in 2013 the Arky of 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by TIDE-HSV View Post
    I frankly don't see a parallel, other than wondering if they're going to be a one-shot wonder. The whole conference has had a season to scout their tendencies, so they will do no more sneaking up on their opponents...
    I think what we're going to find out about Manziel this upcoming season is his makeup above the shoulders. Love him or hate him, the thing about Tebow that made him great from his Wildcat package days to taking over the starting role and through his Senior year was the guy had immense competitive competitor. He didn't get caught up in the trappings of success, he didn't become satisfied. I think he would have went out there on one leg if it gave the Florida Gators a better chance of winning.

    When you're as special as Manziel is athletically, it is typically how special they are between ears that makes them legends and not just a flash in the pan. I don't know about Manziel. He seems to be living the life - legally, NCAA Infractions Committee - and enjoying the fame. I don't know if Manziel has to improve much to still be a terror to defenses but it will get harder for him to reproduce the excellence with every talented team gunning for him.

    I know most Aggies don't realize this, but it seems under Saban since he's gotten going that when the media starts saying someone has their number that they get their just desserts the next time around. It happened to Florida in 2009 and LSU in the championship game.
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    Re: Is A&M in 2013 the Arky of 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by AggieMom View Post
    Thanks for the kind words. Coming from the Big 12, I never remember opposing teams putting so much emphasis on scheduling an off week before a particular game. That apparently is something that is a big part of the Alabama strategy, since such a large percentage of the fans bring it up. Has it always been that way or something that is Saban specific? I haven't been on other SEC team boards, so I don't know if they talk about their teams off weeks in the same way. Only on this board because I live in Alabama.
    In the past many of Alabama's SEC opponents had scheduled a bye week before they played Alabama. It was so bad that the SEC office had to step in and stop the practice. It would be a disadvantage if everyone you played had an extra week to plan and rest. It may not be a big deal in the Big 12 but with the physical style of the SEC having a week off can be an advantage if you have a good coaching staff. Steve Spurrier used it perfectly in his 2010 game vs Alabama.

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    Re: Is A&M in 2013 the Arky of 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by AggieMom View Post
    Thanks for the kind words. Coming from the Big 12, I never remember opposing teams putting so much emphasis on scheduling an off week before a particular game. That apparently is something that is a big part of the Alabama strategy, since such a large percentage of the fans bring it up. Has it always been that way or something that is Saban specific? I haven't been on other SEC team boards, so I don't know if they talk about their teams off weeks in the same way. Only on this board because I live in Alabama.
    Byes are a hot topic with Bama fans because of the grossly unfair manner in which the SEC office has assigned them to Bama opponents. Since 1992, when the SEC expanded and the office took over the conference scheduling, Bama has played more games against teams coming off a bye week than the rest of the conference combined.

    Bama has had an average of 6 conference teams per year with open dates before their game with Bama. Prior to 2010, 3 or 4 of them would use that open date for a bye and 3 or 2 of them would schedule cupcakes. Bama would complain each year, nothing would be done, and life would go on. In 2010, the SEC wound up with egg on their face because all 6 teams in which they gave an open date before Bama used that date for a bye. The 6 games were the last 6 conference games of the year, therefore, Bama played the entire last two months of the 2010 season on an uneven playing field. After it was all over, poor Michigan State learned what it was like to play that Bama team on an even playing field with the same amount of rest, healing, and preparation.

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    Re: Is A&M in 2013 the Arky of 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by selmaborntidefan View Post
    I have gone on the record (and got pilloried for it) that Manziel is another one of those flash and dash players who IF YOU EVER LAY A HIT ON HIM is frightented.
    This theory could work if it takes into account Manziel driving the length of the field in two plays with the game in the balance to score the stay-ahead TD.
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    Is A&M in 2013 the Arky of 2012?

    Oh boy...
    A&M is not an elite team or program whatsoever. Flash in the pan... They came out of nowhere for one season now fans of Aggies think they've won it all. Just last year they couldn't hold huge leads in games now we are suppose to see them on top for years to come. They haven't been consistent.

    Now I could eat my words but I think they drop off like Auburn in 2011. Once teams adjust to them and that offense they won't be able to do anything.


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    Re: Is A&M in 2013 the Arky of 2012?

    A&M fans see the Aggies as well...A&M fans. Anyone that doesn't get on the "A&M is a powerhouse" train is just crazy or dumb, and if it's a Bama fan it's just "sour grapes". The truth is, A&M did finish last years regular season 10-2, but should've been 9-3 and easily could've been 8-4. One 6-2 SEC season and one win in T-Town, while it was better than expected, does not make A&M a "power" by any means. LSU won in T-Town a couple of years ago...and haven't won since, and A&M ain't no LSU.
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    Re: Is A&M in 2013 the Arky of 2012?

    While I agree one season is not a trend. I do think TAMU has some staying power unlike Arkansas. Fertile recruiting base, a good offensive scheme.

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    Re: Is A&M in 2013 the Arky of 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by rgw View Post
    While I agree one season is not a trend. I do think TAMU has some staying power unlike Arkansas. Fertile recruiting base, a good offensive scheme.
    Yes, Texas is a really good recruiting state, and they play some good offense at A&M. The saying is "it ain't the x's and o's, it's the Jimmie's and Joe's", and as long as A&M puts their Jimmie's and Joe's on one side of their team, they'll never be balanced...just like a boat, they'll list. They may not sink,but they won't win the race. Of course that may be all they wanna do out in College Station...stay afloat. hahahaha
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    Re: Is A&M in 2013 the Arky of 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by TIDE-HSV View Post
    Oh good grief! Are you reading anything I'm typing? I never said that we received any favorable treatment, other than NOT having to face a rested team, with two weeks to practice for us, every week. Look, you are not proving to be the best of guests. The reason there are no longer LSU posters on this board is exactly what you're doing - patrolling the threads, looking for anything you see as negative to A&M and argue, argue, argue. And I've had enough of it. Next time you have something of real substance to add, post again. IF you're incapable of that, I'll help you out. You really need to go back to your home board(s)...
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    Re: Is A&M in 2013 the Arky of 2012?

    Now for A&M question.

    Alabama had a bad quarter, but to their credit they fought & came back with a chance to win the game. Who knows what if but that's football. Every play is important.

    I do not think A & M is as good as made out nor is JM.

    This backyard ball caught us off guard & a lot of luck went their way in the end.

    I don't think they completely implode like Arky but I do see us & LSU as not their only losses.

    I do like Sumlin, think he adds class to the SEC, but I'm not impressed with their fans. Win something then talk, you got us so good for you but this year I think you are going to see a NEVER AGAIN part 2.

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    Re: Is A&M in 2013 the Arky of 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by bamadp View Post
    A&M fans see the Aggies as well...A&M fans. Anyone that doesn't get on the "A&M is a powerhouse" train is just crazy or dumb, and if it's a Bama fan it's just "sour grapes". The truth is, A&M did finish last years regular season 10-2, but should've been 9-3 and easily could've been 8-4. One 6-2 SEC season and one win in T-Town, while it was better than expected, does not make A&M a "power" by any means. LSU won in T-Town a couple of years ago...and haven't won since, and A&M ain't no LSU.
    i don't know, ole miss' win over florida (with tebow) in the swamp in 2008 catapulted them to an unprecedented run in the secs, or something like that
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