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    Re: Too many scholarships in the backfield?

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    Re: Too many scholarships in the backfield?

    Quote Originally Posted by TIDE-HSV View Post
    I seem to remember threads for the last two years to the effect that we had a roadblock at RB. Depth sure can evaporate in a hurry...
    I remember seeing a lot about the Tide potentially having too much depth at RB last year. Having two 1,000 yard rushers goes a long way to dispel that, along with having someone leave early every year. You have to keep reloading...

    Aside from that though, the team had true freshman as second and third string RB by years end, and they gave a lot of time to a walk on. Part of this is the fact that the schedule is getting longer, and a playoff game will only add to that. You don't want to run out of running backs headed into the post season.

    As far as QB, last year things seemed pretty comfortable. AJ backed up by an experienced 5 star QB. They had three other scholarship QBs behind him. Once he transfers though, it became clear there wasn't an obvious replacement. Blake Sims is going to be a junior, and it's hard to imagine him being the full time QB anyway, so he's not much of an option. Ely will only be a sophomore, but clearly Saban isn't seeing something he'd like to see, or else he'd have been the backup last year. So, it makes sense that he'd want Morris, and Bateman. McLeod was the only one that threw me off, I thought once Del Rio came on board, he (and/or Morris) might decide to look elsewhere.

    However, it's clear that Saban is looking for his future QB, and there's something he sees in all these guys. Since all of these guys will participate in spring practice, I imagine we will see a departure though, as someone figures out they are too far down the totem pole. The flip side is that if AJ gets hurt, all our hopes will rest on one of those guy's shoulders.
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    Re: Too many scholarships in the backfield?

    JMO, but you only have too many here if you have neglected other positions. I see no sign of that.

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    Re: Too many scholarships in the backfield?

    In one area, I'd point to how we use multiple RBs in our offense, regardless of the talent of the individual RB. Before Fowler got hurt, we were using three RBs against teams (fortunately for some of our opponents, we were only able to use two).

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    Re: Too many scholarships in the backfield?

    I don't think you were trying to complain, so I'll try to be as objective as possible. 13 of 85 scholarships is 15.29% (13/85). I think that's reasonable, although I admit that I have no yardstick to measure by - BET, RTO, LCN, HSV, or CA may have a better perspective. The ratio of QB/RB scholarships may be slightly out of kilter, but I don't see it as anything that won't self-adjust within a year.

    That brings us to the question I think you are trying to get to - will we see transfers due to the depth in the backfield? At QB, I wouldn't be surprised. At RB, I would. We cycle several players there throughout each game, and we have a history of three-and-done high-profile studs. The line moves along rapidly enough, even without injuries.
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    Re: Too many scholarships in the backfield?

    Bama wants/Needs List:

    D Linemen: Check
    O Linemen: Check
    Linebackers: Check
    Secondary: Check
    Wide Receivers: Check
    Tight Ends: Check
    QBs: check

    A whole Boatload of 4-5 star Running Backs: Double Check

    Wheres the problem?

    Seriously though, I could see a QB or two leaving after the pecking order is establised...its the only position that playerws really dont share time.

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    Re: Too many scholarships in the backfield?

    I'm gonna go with it seeming like Saban has a pretty good grasp on this whole college football thing and I'll let him worry about it.

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    Re: Too many scholarships in the backfield?

    Quote Originally Posted by bamafaninOhiO View Post
    Bama wants/Needs List:

    D Linemen: Check
    O Linemen: Check
    Linebackers: Check
    Secondary: Check
    Wide Receivers: Check
    Tight Ends: Check
    QBs: check

    A whole Boatload of 4-5 star Running Backs: Double Check

    Wheres the problem?

    Seriously though, I could see a QB or two leaving after the pecking order is establised...its the only position that playerws really dont share time.

    Just a thought.... Highest rated class of the modern era and probably not a September starer in the bunch.
    The state of Alabama football.

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    Re: Too many scholarships in the backfield?

    Look at the player's "age" going into the 2013 season.

    QB:
    AJ - Senior
    Blake - RS Junior
    Ely - RS Sophomore
    Morris - RS Freshman
    Bateman - Freshman
    McLeod - Freshman
    Del Rio - Freshman

    RB:
    TJ - Sophomore
    Drake - Sophomore
    Fowler - Senior
    Hart - RS Sophomore
    Henry - Freshman
    Kamara - Freshman
    Jones - Freshman
    Tenpenny - Freshman

    Behind AJ, Alabama has one experienced QB in Blake. Morris may make a run at #2 this year after being in the system for year. When looking at their eligibility, you see one guy for sure gone and two others possibly gone with degrees in hand. There will be a line in 2013, but that line shrinks going into 2014. Someone help here, Del Rio can't play for 2 years because he is an invited walk-on, correct?

    In regards to the RB depth, Bama loses Fowler after this year. Hart may not play again because of his injuries. Barring an injury, TJ is at Bama for only 2 more seasons. Again, that line isn't as long as it first appears.
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    Re: Too many scholarships in the backfield?

    Quote Originally Posted by buzzincuzzin View Post
    Just a thought.... Highest rated class of the modern era and probably not a September starer in the bunch.
    The state of Alabama football.

    I agree....its hard to truly understand whats happening right now...

    Every recruiter in the country just pounds at the depth chart at bama each and every year...and they just keep on a comin' and waitin thier turn... Its truly unprecedented.

    And Im lovin every minute of it.

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    Re: Too many scholarships in the backfield?

    Quote Originally Posted by RTR91 View Post
    Look at the player's "age" going into the 2013 season.

    QB:
    AJ - Senior
    Blake - RS Junior
    Ely - RS Sophomore
    Morris - RS Freshman
    Bateman - Freshman
    McLeod - Freshman
    Del Rio - Freshman

    RB:
    TJ - Sophomore
    Drake - Sophomore
    Fowler - Senior
    Hart - RS Sophomore
    Henry - Freshman
    Kamara - Freshman
    Jones - Freshman
    Tenpenny - Freshman

    Behind AJ, Alabama has one experienced QB in Blake. Morris may make a run at #2 this year after being in the system for year. When looking at their eligibility, you see one guy for sure gone and two others possibly gone with degrees in hand. There will be a line in 2013, but that line shrinks going into 2014. Someone help here, Del Rio can't play for 2 years because he is an invited walk-on, correct?

    In regards to the RB depth, Bama loses Fowler after this year. Hart may not play again because of his injuries. Barring an injury, TJ is at Bama for only 2 more seasons. Again, that line isn't as long as it first appears.
    A nice perspective.

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    Big A Re: Too many scholarships in the backfield?

    Too many? Did you watch any of the games last year? This is SEC big boy football and RB's (and QB's) can be lost for the year on one play. CSN knows what he is doing, just sit back and enjoy the ride.
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    Re: Too many scholarships in the backfield?

    Yesterday Saban said "to have really good depth at running back you need five really good players.Three guys usually play a lot."

    He prefaced that remark by pointing out that we really only have one proven performer at the RB position. The other guys are coming off injuries and/or have played sparingly.

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