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    Re: College football playoff selection process already screwed up...

    Btw - since we are now counting "injured players" as "acceptable excuses for failure," can we ALSO count "games decided by officials blown calls" as wins, too?
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    Re: College football playoff selection process already screwed up...

    Quote Originally Posted by selmaborntidefan View Post
    Btw - since we are now counting "injured players" as "acceptable excuses for failure," can we ALSO count "games decided by officials blown calls" as wins, too?
    Good suggestion, maybe that can be added in as a subjective area the selection committee can use.

    I dont mind a playoff, actually feel it will be fantastic, IF its done right and its true objective is to get the 4 BEST teams in, not ensure teams are included based on who they want to see (whether deserved or not)

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    Re: College football playoff selection process already screwed up...

    Quote Originally Posted by selmaborntidefan View Post
    Btw - since we are now counting "injured players" as "acceptable excuses for failure," can we ALSO count "games decided by officials blown calls" as wins, too?
    Maybe we can get them to include 'do overs' also...like our last second interception against TAMU...

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    Re: College football playoff selection process already screwed up...

    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson1967 View Post
    Well B1G anyway. I alluded awhile ago to your being pleasantly different than most posters who are fans of another team who hang out on another team's board. Although I've never quite figured out why people do that, you don't seem to push an OSU agenda in a contradictory way and for whatever reason have an interest in Bama and this board. As such I'm happy to have you here and read your posts.

    But don't expect me to defend the B1G and especially that idiot Delaney and his politicking, as well as the new playoff system.

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    Last edited by 1958againbear; February 8th, 2013 at 04:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bamafaninOhiO View Post
    Maybe we can get them to include 'do overs' also...like our last second interception against TAMU...
    The interesting thing is they seem to be following the BCS mantra of ignoring margin of victory. The la la la can't hear you logic that said Notre Dame was better than Alabama, thanks in part to people ignoring scores. So, they say that they will take into consideration where games are played, but no mention as of yet of margin of victory.

    Ironically (or intentionally?) they could come down on Alabama hard for losing at home to Texas A&M and LSU, while forgiving a team for losing on the road, even if the road victory wasn't a close game. Now, that might be reading too far into it, but the whole while I've been paying attention to what they've said, and so far they have consistently met my expectations, in that they have consistently been disappointing.

    It's extremely odd to see them say that they will consider where the games are played, injuries, conference champions, and strength of schedule. Yet, they haven't breathed a word about the polls or margin of victory, so basically they're trying hard not to use common sense. Apply their criteria to Okie St. and Alabama in 2011 and they put Okie St. higher, which seems to be their test case.

    I wish I was kidding, but when you read over what they said, it's like they all sat down and said ok, how could we get Okie St. in and keep Alabama out.

    SoS: Alabama 13, Oklahoma St. 5
    Where games were played: Alabama lost at home, Oklahoma St. on the road.
    Injuries: Not sure about this (do plane crashes count?).
    Conference championship: Oklahoma St. won their conference, Alabama didn't.

    So, magically three out of four categories favor Oklahoma St (perhaps all four). What you don't have is anything that would have favored Alabama. Margin of victory, rankings in the polls, etc... So, basically it's all about coming up with excuses not to pick the best team.
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    Re: College football playoff selection process already screwed up...

    Quote Originally Posted by bamatex82 View Post
    British Premier League for instance does not have a playoff system.
    As an aside: if I could scrap the entire NCAA conference structure system and start over, I'd take all of FBS, FCS, and DII, and organize the whole thing into regional 9 or 10 team tiers with promotion and relegation along the lines of the English football league system. Let teams naturally find their own level of competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrAzY3 View Post
    The interesting thing is they seem to be following the BCS mantra of ignoring margin of victory. The la la la can't hear you logic that said Notre Dame was better than Alabama, thanks in part to people ignoring scores. So, they say that they will take into consideration where games are played, but no mention as of yet of margin of victory.

    Ironically (or intentionally?) they could come down on Alabama hard for losing at home to Texas A&M and LSU, while forgiving a team for losing on the road, even if the road victory wasn't a close game. Now, that might be reading too far into it, but the whole while I've been paying attention to what they've said, and so far they have consistently met my expectations, in that they have consistently been disappointing.

    It's extremely odd to see them say that they will consider where the games are played, injuries, conference champions, and strength of schedule. Yet, they haven't breathed a word about the polls or margin of victory, so basically they're trying hard not to use common sense. Apply their criteria to Okie St. and Alabama in 2011 and they put Okie St. higher, which seems to be their test case.

    I wish I was kidding, but when you read over what they said, it's like they all sat down and said ok, how could we get Okie St. in and keep Alabama out.

    SoS: Alabama 13, Oklahoma St. 5
    Where games were played: Alabama lost at home, Oklahoma St. on the road.
    Injuries: Not sure about this (do plane crashes count?).
    Conference championship: Oklahoma St. won their conference, Alabama didn't.

    So, magically three out of four categories favor Oklahoma St (perhaps all four). What you don't have is anything that would have favored Alabama. Margin of victory, rankings in the polls, etc... So, basically it's all about coming up with excuses not to pick the best team.
    This^^^^. Much of what you said hits the nail right on the head. Although we have a history of getting screwed by the polls, the polls got us in last year's BCSCG whereas the 'committee' would've put Okie State in for sure when we were the best of the rest to play LSwho. If it was such an affront to have a team who didn't win their conference BUT WAS BETTER THAN EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE COUNTRY, including Okie State, in the one game 'playoff', where's the outrage over the NCAA's 64 plus team basketball tournament, the NFL playoffs, MLB playoffs, etc. I hope we win the next several BCS plus playoffs to the point that Delaney and the others puke at the sound of Saban and Bama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TIDE-HSV View Post
    Our predictive powers have been pretty accurate to date...
    If they are going to a playoff they should just use the current BCS formula. People sometimes argue numbers 2&3 but rarely number 4. I guess that would just be too damn easy.

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    Re: College football playoff selection process already screwed up...

    Quote Originally Posted by capnfrog View Post
    I asked "do you see the humor in my post ". I put a smiley face on the end to show I was trying to be humorous. I don't think you were trying to be funny but no big deal. I'm still elated over the #1 recruiting ranking for Bama. Nothings' going to ruin it for me. Roll Tide.
    It's cool, and I am also happy that my two favorite schools had great recruiting classes. Ours wasn't nearly as good as yours, but I feel good about the direction that we are moving in.

    And I agree with the posters that said that I should have used a smiley. My mistake, and something that I should keep in mind. Tone is hard to imply on a message board.

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    Re: College football playoff selection process already screwed up...

    Quote Originally Posted by 1958againbear View Post
    Well B1G anyway. I alluded awhile ago to your being pleasantly different than most posters who are fans of another team who hang out on another team's board. Although I've never quite figured out why people do that, you don't seem to push an OSU agenda in a contradictory way and for whatever reason have an interest in Bama and this board. As such I'm happy to have you here and read your posts.
    I originally came here as a way to connect with my passed father, but have really come to enjoy the way that you guys (and gals) discuss the sport. I spend less and less time on OSU boards as the tone of this board makes it much harder to tolerate the crud that goes on elsewhere. This is a great board, and the mods make it so by keeping the negativity and smack talk out.

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    Re: College football playoff selection process already screwed up...

    Quote Originally Posted by B1GTide View Post
    I originally came here as a way to connect with my passed father, but have really come to enjoy the way that you guys (and gals) discuss the sport. I spend less and less time on OSU boards as the tone of this board makes it much harder to tolerate the crud that goes on elsewhere. This is a great board, and the mods make it so by keeping the negativity and smack talk out.
    Well here's to you and your passed father. I hope he's also enjoying the repartee here on TideFans, the greatest board there is. And thanks as always to the mods who do such a great job.

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    Re: College football playoff selection process already screwed up...

    Bringing injuries into the equation is intended to prop up the smaller schools that don't have depth. When Alabama suffers a key injury, we replace the player with another great player. Saying that a loss is more forgivable because of an injury is saying that depth isn't part of what makes a team great. The national championship should go to the best team, which includes more than just the opening-day starters.
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    Re: College football playoff selection process already screwed up...

    A wagon of horse manure in the guise of egalitarianism, and it smells like Delaney and the Big XII
    Last edited by TexasBama; February 8th, 2013 at 05:56 PM.

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