Re: Four Bama football players arrested - was progress of Eddie Williams & B. Callowa
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Four Bama football players arrested, are dismissed from team
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Re: Four Bama football players arrested - was progress of Eddie Williams & B. Callowa
Sip, I hope you're right. Too often, however, the supposedly good kids are figments of imagination produced by the myth-making collective -- sports writers and coaches and boosters who ignore the flaws because everybody benefits from those who are unnaturally gifted at games.
That said, some of these players have never been away from home, don't have the context to keep their own celebrity in perspective and often don't consider consequences because they've rarely faced any. The odd thing here is that they could have all walked over to The Strip, identified themselves as Alabama football players (as if that would have been necessary), asked for money, and dozens of people would have lined up to empty their wallets.
Instead, they beat and robbed. That need for violence and the reminder of their physical superiority are troubling, and they've left the best coach alive at a loss for words.
When I was in school, there were regular reports about how one of Bear's "good Christian boys" had pummeled some regular student at a fraternity party and what not. That was assault. It was rarely, if ever, punished. But it was not robbery. To give up so much for so little. To leave a trail for police as wide as University Boulevard. Then to confess like they couldn't wait to get the word out. Well, it's almost childlike.
Violent, imbecilic kids.
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Sip, I hope you're right. Too often, however, the supposedly good kids are figments of imagination produced by the myth-making collective -- sports writers and coaches and boosters who ignore the flaws because everybody benefits from those who are unnaturally gifted at games.
That said, some of these players have never been away from home, don't have the context to keep their own celebrity in perspective and often don't consider consequences because they've rarely faced any. The odd thing here is that they could have all walked over to The Strip, identified themselves as Alabama football players (as if that would have been necessary), asked for money, and dozens of people would have lined up to empty their wallets.
Instead, they beat and robbed. That need for violence and the reminder of their physical superiority are troubling, and they've left the best coach alive at a loss for words.
When I was in school, there were regular reports about how one of Bear's "good Christian boys" had pummeled some regular student at a fraternity party and what not. That was assault. It was rarely, if ever, punished. But it was not robbery. To give up so much for so little. To leave a trail for police as wide as University Boulevard. Then to confess like they couldn't wait to get the word out. Well, it's almost childlike.
Violent, imbecilic kids.
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Re: Four Bama football players arrested - was progress of Eddie Williams & B. Callowa
That thread is from October 2009 and the individual you addressed is not a moderator or administrator of any sort...
Four Bama football players arrested - was progress of Eddie Williams & B. Callo
While in Pensacola I never heard of Pettway getting in to the slightest bit of trouble, now he's beating students, something doesn't smell right...
While in Pensacola I never heard of Pettway getting in to the slightest bit of trouble, now he's beating students, something doesn't smell right...
Re: Four Bama football players arrested - was progress of Eddie Williams & B. Callowa
I was just joking like the peeps in that thread, it's ironic, the two guys the OP asked about just kicked off the team (pretty much). So, OP deserves 12 hour ban. But I'm just joking.
Re: Four Bama football players arrested - was progress of Eddie Williams & B. Callowa
What a horrible situation all the way around. I know young people do stupid stuff, but this goes way beyond that. As far I'm concerned, the only one I would even consider even listening to would be Calloway, although he would not be a part of the team after the the prior issues he has had before. He is obviously NOT getting it. What an epic act of stupidity and a waste of a golden opportunity by them. My Grandfather used to say "Stupid oughta hurt", and the older I get, I find myself agreeing with that.
These players put a very nasty mark on the hard work of CNS and staff, the other players that are doing things right, and have embarrassed the University. As far as I'm concerned, the sooner they're gone, the better.
What a horrible situation all the way around. I know young people do stupid stuff, but this goes way beyond that. As far I'm concerned, the only one I would even consider even listening to would be Calloway, although he would not be a part of the team after the the prior issues he has had before. He is obviously NOT getting it. What an epic act of stupidity and a waste of a golden opportunity by them. My Grandfather used to say "Stupid oughta hurt", and the older I get, I find myself agreeing with that.
These players put a very nasty mark on the hard work of CNS and staff, the other players that are doing things right, and have embarrassed the University. As far as I'm concerned, the sooner they're gone, the better.
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Not only that, but, as I said way above, beating a kid into unconsciousness to get a backpack and wallet when, if you look the way these guys do, all you have to say is "Hand it over," is a crime of rage and passion. It's not simple robbery for property. I'm sure the charges will grow from those lodged so far. Also, as said above, Williams has been a dead man walking since the Sunday incident. He had nothing to lose, in one sense. Why the others would listen to him is the mystery...
Re: Four Bama football players arrested - was progress of Eddie Williams & B. Callo
If you sleep with the dogs, you get fleas. Apparently he chose the wrong sort to hang with or so it seems.
Re: Four Bama football players arrested - was progress of Eddie Williams & B. Callowa
I'm not sure how it got started, but we don't have discussion, off-topic at that, on the forums. That is between the staff and the individual involved. Here is my sticky from the NS forum:
I'm not sure how it got started, but we don't have discussion, off-topic at that, on the forums. That is between the staff and the individual involved. Here is my sticky from the NS forum:
Four Bama football players arrested - was progress of Eddie Williams & B. Callo
I've got little patience for this type of stuff. Barring this being a fabrication, I can't see any circumstances for the 4 to be allowed to stay on the team.
RTR '12!
I've got little patience for this type of stuff. Barring this being a fabrication, I can't see any circumstances for the 4 to be allowed to stay on the team.
RTR '12!
Re: Four Bama football players arrested - was progress of Eddie Williams & B. Callowa
They should of course go to prison. They have laid their hands on people and beat them in such a way that they may have permanently been injured or killed them. They can just take a great sign of relief it was not my daughter or son. But then again the relatives or friends of the students may think the way I do. Watch your backs boys.:BigA:
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They should of course go to prison. They have laid their hands on people and beat them in such a way that they may have permanently been injured or killed them. They can just take a great sign of relief it was not my daughter or son. But then again the relatives or friends of the students may think the way I do. Watch your backs boys.:BigA:
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I'm sure once theyvare through suing the university and the AD they will be able to afford their own counseling.
Re: Four Bama football players arrested - was progress of Eddie Williams & B. Callowa
This pretty much completely sums up my thoughts about the situation. If all the confessions are true, Williams got more out of the act than the worth of a credit card and should have the book thrown at him. The rest, at the least, should be gone from the team and school.
Re: Four Bama football players arrested - was progress of Eddie Williams & B. Callowa
Coach Saban tells an interesting story about Ro McClain. If McClain had gotten an assault charge in T-town (when he had that physical altercation with another student) it would've cost him about $28 million. That's because he would've fallen from a 1st round NFL pick to a 3rd round pick.
These guys had an incredible opportunity. They blew it.
Coach Saban tells an interesting story about Ro McClain. If McClain had gotten an assault charge in T-town (when he had that physical altercation with another student) it would've cost him about $28 million. That's because he would've fallen from a 1st round NFL pick to a 3rd round pick.
These guys had an incredible opportunity. They blew it.
Re: Four Bama football players arrested - was progress of Eddie Williams & B. Callowa
What the Alabama players did was wrong, cruel and disrespectful for the university of Alabama and the football team. They deserve to be kicked off the team. IT's plan stupid. What bothers me that we still do not know the whole story of what happened, and we only know of the incident reported in the police report. I will pray for those young men, and hope that they turn their life around. I refuse to call them thugs, because what they did was stupid, but doesn't make them a thug at all.
What the Alabama players did was wrong, cruel and disrespectful for the university of Alabama and the football team. They deserve to be kicked off the team. IT's plan stupid. What bothers me that we still do not know the whole story of what happened, and we only know of the incident reported in the police report. I will pray for those young men, and hope that they turn their life around. I refuse to call them thugs, because what they did was stupid, but doesn't make them a thug at all.
Four Bama football players arrested - was progress of Eddie Williams & B. Callo
I'm just glad it isn't starters or projected starters on the team!
I'm just glad it isn't starters or projected starters on the team!
Re: Four Bama football players arrested - was progress of Eddie Williams & B. Callowa
After digging around a bit, Calloway, Hayes and Pettway had been in a bit of hot water for several reasons. Williams, AFAIK, had not, although he was not progressing as hoped. According to the Sunday statement of the convenience store clerk, Williams actually stated he was not going to pay, even if he had to go to his trunk, which he did, before he got arrested. He was very, very lucky not to have had a higher charge than unlicensed possession. At any rate, to repeat, I think he was gone from the team since Sunday. Was that a factor? IMO, probably...
Re: Four Bama football players arrested - was progress of Eddie Williams & B. Callowa
I heard about that "trunk popping" incident yesterday. I took it as the normal bravado that a few of the guys on our team have year in and year out. (I have a couple of personal stories of said bravado by a couple of guys who were on the team during the time I was in school (2000-2006). Heard one say to a UA police officer, "Do you know who I am? I run this campus!" after finishing the season with 2 tackles and 1 tackle for loss. Yeah...it was that bad.) But apparently, Eddie has some issues there. All types of conclusions I could draw here, but I hate blanket statements and all that come with them. But in any event, I pray that all these young men get their lives together, football or not.
Re: Four Bama football players arrested - was progress of Eddie Williams & B. Callowa
If True and I suspect the charges are then Coach Saban has to send a message loud and clear. This will not be tolerated.
If True and I suspect the charges are then Coach Saban has to send a message loud and clear. This will not be tolerated.
Re: Four Bama football players arrested - was progress of Eddie Williams & B. Callowa
I'll let Lady Justice deal a hand for these knuckleheads. I'll sincerely hope and pray for the real victim here.
As for me, they aren't ruining my post-Championship buzz.
I'll let Lady Justice deal a hand for these knuckleheads. I'll sincerely hope and pray for the real victim here.
As for me, they aren't ruining my post-Championship buzz.
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