Friends cover a lot of incidentals. Players get invited to many things, cook outs, etc. They also can get student loans. With minimal money management they should be fine...even buy a decent car, at least make the payments on one.
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I wish he had a different name since that is my name also. I can tell sometimes when people look at me and I say, "No, not that Scott Moore."
I think of all the allegation the NCAA would be most interested in the grade changing. Everything else may be shoved aside due to evidence but grade changing would be a huge no-no at an accredited college institution.
Since current au head coach gus malzaughn was on staff in 2010, will the ncaa question him as to what he knew was occurring? Also, being the great man on integrity that he is, did gus not notify the compliance personnel of the alleged events? Was gus involved in any way?
Yeah if I were McNeil, I would have pointed out that we had a great chick-fil-a close to campus LOL
No, went undrafted. I had to chuckle about that, after seeing all of the threads on ITAT saying he was better than Julio...
Watch the one issue that doesn't involve money changing hands be the one that the NCAA makes a statement on.
Academic fraud.
The NCAA is in a bit of a crap storm right now. USA Today has been hammering them all week. There's the Miami case bungle and the criticism over the Penn State penalties. They need some fresh meat to show their relevancy. What better opportunity could they have than this?
Academic fraud is usually a cut and dried issue. There are records. There are federal and state requirements for documenting this stuff. If there's any red meat in this, it'll be the academic fraud allegations.
Academic fraud.
The NCAA is in a bit of a crap storm right now. USA Today has been hammering them all week. There's the Miami case bungle and the criticism over the Penn State penalties. They need some fresh meat to show their relevancy. What better opportunity could they have than this?
Academic fraud is usually a cut and dried issue. There are records. There are federal and state requirements for documenting this stuff. If there's any red meat in this, it'll be the academic fraud allegations.
^^^^ This. Agreed. Per usual, teflon aubrens may escape (ie., pay off) with their hides again. But if there's one thing besides the usual money stories that the NCAA could/would love to send them up the river on it's the academic fraud issue. I don't know if there's a way the boogs can/will get nailed for it, but if so they could only wish that paying players was their biggest problem. Everyone knows what they did keeping everybody eligible for the BCS two years ago. If proved, such an egregious case of academic fraud along with lack of institutional control should bust them back to the dinosaur age. Not to mention their academic accreditation being looked into again. I'm not holding my breath yet but if something does start happening over this for real then just rename this thread MEGATHREAD PART 2. Yeehaw.
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There's a period of time after a semester ends that a student has the opportunity to (for lack of a better word) contest a grade before it becomes a permanent record. Auburn just conveniently extended this window of time before the grades became permanent to the day after the BCSNCG. Then it wouldn't matter if they failed, the game is over. I doubt official grades were changed, these folks are clever, and they have Franklin, Lightfoot, White to advise them on such. If anything, the NCAA might take that window of time away from school discretion or shorten it to prevent future shenanigans. Call it the Auburn rule. My speculation...of course.
I might have agreed with you prior to their handling of the UNCheat debacle. Those guys were caught red-handed in a scandal that affected not only football but also their beloved (and supposedly pristine) roundball program, and the NCAA has done... ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. The statement issued by the UNC AD included this gem:
If falsifying transcripts and having nonexistent classes for athletes don't qualify as rules violations then what the hell is the point of having rules in the first place?!
after the UNC allegations I am not 100% sure this is true any longer. they skated on serious academic fraud allegations, why won't the barn?
Yep, thought about UNC.
Also, the sociology scandal at Auburn has been mentioned. The ncaa didn't so much as bat an eye over that one, if I recall correctly.
Oh but let there be some impropriety regarding textbooks and the ncaa drops the hammer!
Also, the sociology scandal at Auburn has been mentioned. The ncaa didn't so much as bat an eye over that one, if I recall correctly.
Oh but let there be some impropriety regarding textbooks and the ncaa drops the hammer!
I might give them a pass there, since you guys getting hammered off the field is probably the only way we win the game this fall. :wink:Oh but let there be some impropriety regarding textbooks and the ncaa drops the hammer!
beat me, with sources by 2 minutes. NiceI might have agreed with you prior to their handling of the UNCheat debacle. Those guys were caught red-handed in a scandal that affected not only football but also their beloved (and supposedly pristine) roundball program, and the NCAA has done... ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. The statement issued by the UNC AD included this gem:
If falsifying transcripts and having nonexistent classes for athletes don't qualify as rules violations then what the hell is the point of having rules in the first place?!
Where's Mosley's trial, etc. in all of this? Did he get youthful offender status? A lot of us have wondered if Mosley and his old man could be the key to getting the boogs, but then I guess the boogs could just pay them off like everybody else.
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What i dont understand is the NCAA complains about not having subpoena power so they have to engage in all these black market tactics to get information on the schools. I am sure that a member school's membership is supported by a contract or agreement to abide by said rules and pay fees for the school to maintain membership. If that is indeed the case, why doesnt the NCAA (and vice versa for the school) just sue the member school for breach of contract in civil court for rules violations, damages, etc? This would in effect give the NCAA access to the court system, evidence rules, discovery rules, and subpoena power in order to get redress against the school. You might even have the cases heard before the Tax Court (jurisdictionally) because I think the NCAA might could make an argument that member schools violating their rules jeopardizes their ability to maintain their tax exempt status. There would also be a legitimate appeals process as well; however, I doubt any such case would ever make to SCOTUS but you never know.
The school's membership should be any different than a stockholder suing its own company in a derivative action. The fact the NCAA says they dont have access to the courts just doesnt make sense to me when virtually everyone else in society does if they so choose to go that route. Of course, unless the NCAA mandates dispute resolution be what it currently is which obviously doesnt work well at all.
To me some approach like this would certainly result in some form of legitimate justice on these matters as opposed to the ridiculous results we see now.
The school's membership should be any different than a stockholder suing its own company in a derivative action. The fact the NCAA says they dont have access to the courts just doesnt make sense to me when virtually everyone else in society does if they so choose to go that route. Of course, unless the NCAA mandates dispute resolution be what it currently is which obviously doesnt work well at all.
To me some approach like this would certainly result in some form of legitimate justice on these matters as opposed to the ridiculous results we see now.
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I think a more appropriate penalty would be to require all Aubbies to sit through reruns of the Barn Football and Basketball games of last year. Maybe our lawyer friend (Earle) can tell us if the SCOTUS would deem this "Cruel and Unusual Punishment".
My prediction: A year (or two) of stumbling and fumbling by the NCAA, followed by... nothing.
From what I've seen of this, it's another case of "he said", followed by "he denies he said."
You have to hand it to the Barners, they sure know how to get by with things. They do it the old fashioned way - cash and face to face conversations.
From what I've seen of this, it's another case of "he said", followed by "he denies he said."
You have to hand it to the Barners, they sure know how to get by with things. They do it the old fashioned way - cash and face to face conversations.
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